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Laminate to Melamine

5/19/17       
Nick Cook Member

Website: http://www.cedarrivercabinetry.com

I've never tried this but tested it on a small sample. I'd like to laminate plastic laminate to black melamine. Should I be concerned about gluing with contact cement the plastic laminate to the melamine surface?

I'll be cutting out some doors and drawer fronts on the CNC machine after gluing and then edge banding them.

5/19/17       #2: Laminate to Melamine ...
David Egnoski  Member

Website: http://www.richmondcabinet.com

I don't work with laminate any longer but did plenty 20 years ago. I would scuff sand the melamine a little and spray the contact on. Never had a failure that I know of.

5/19/17       #3: Laminate to Melamine ...
Pat Gilbert

Bad idea, it is likely to warp.

5/19/17       #4: Laminate to Melamine ...
Mark B Member

Why not just lay up a balanced panel with black HPL on one face and your other HPL on the other face? Less risk of warp

5/19/17       #5: Laminate to Melamine ...
Richard Member

Scuffed up melamine and HPL will bond successfully. As said for doors, a balanced is the way to go.

5/20/17       #6: Laminate to Melamine ...
Paul Miller

Website: http://MCCWOODWORKING.COM

I agree with David Egnoski, I have done this for years and never have had a problem. I do not do a balanced board on melamine.

Interesting, in the early 1990's we had contact glue failure with a non-flammable glue made by Wilsonart. But, where we had glued laminate onto melamine with this glue, we did not have any failures. I think the melamine is a balance board.

5/20/17       #7: Laminate to Melamine ...
Pat Gilbert

In this area I might even be trouble with backer or 020 instead of equal thickness laminate.

I suspect that if Nick is in a dryer climate it may be more trouble.

Also melamine won't meet specs for AWI.

5/20/17       #8: Laminate to Melamine ...
Nick Cook Member

Website: http://www.cedarrivercabinetry.com

Thanks for all the ideas. I can see there's a difference of opinion and outcomes experienced by different guys. I decided to go with no laminate. I'll just use black melamine for the doors and drawer fronts. I was looking for an easy way to get a more durable front face. I don't want to risk warping. These cabinets are being installed in a drag line at the coal mine. The last set I did they had requested white paint. This set they wanted black and something more durable than paint.

5/25/17       #9: Laminate to Melamine ...
Richard Conde

Website: http://www.wilsonart.com

Yes, with Wilsonart® RE-COVER™ Laminate, this application is now simple and achievable.

- No sanding of melamine required

- No adhesive applied by fabricator

- No VOCs (Volatile Organic Compounds) created by adhesive application

- RE-COVER Adhesive System applied to laminate by Wilsonart

- Quick cleaning with denature alcohol, isopropyl alcohol or Windex® w/ Ammonia

Please reference the Fabrication and Installation Manual here for complete details. For additional technical assistance, please contact us at 800-433-3222.

5/26/17       #10: Laminate to Melamine ...
Larry

Above all, keep it balanced. I watched a lawsuit where the shop had laminated one side of melamine doors on a large job. Ended up looking like potato chips. Very expensive lesson!

5/27/17       #11: Laminate to Melamine ...
Nick Cook

So by balanced I would need the same laminate on both sides correct? Or some way to prevent the uneven absorption of moisture. There has to be a better way than having laminate on the inside of the doors and drawer fronts.

5/27/17       #12: Laminate to Melamine ...
Pat Gilbert

Technically it should be the same thickness material.

If not exposed you can accomplish this with regrind or a discontinued color.

Realistically you are going to have to use cabinet liner on the back of the doors.


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