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dust collection setup in a 1000sqft shop2/3
I have 1550 cfm 2 stage dust collector dedicated to the 15 planer. Right now the the dust collector is located at one end of the shop and I use a 10 ft fexable hose to run to the planer. My shop is about 40' ft long. I mainly use the planer to dimension rough lumber for face frame cabinets. running 3 to 500 bd feet at a time. At 16fpm the dust collector keeps up fine but falls behind at 33fpm. how many chip separating cans can I put in line without losing suction? The dust collector has a 6 inch port I am planning to run 6" ducting from the collector to the Y and then 4 inch to the machine. My last question, Is 1550 big enough to run the ducting on the ceiling?
The real question is why are you planning rough lumber? Why not buy is planned?
I buy lumber from 2 different mills. I try to stock about 100 bdft of hit and miss oak, alder, and birch. Depending on lead time of a big job I do buy rough stock. but both mills require planing to final thickness. I buy it this way because its cheaper, stock is the same thickness if I plane it myself, requires less sanding later.
I'd have to agree with Bill.
I did the math and considered the 2 guys hour and a half 4 passes from 29/32 and then the disposal of the waste. You're right its not worth it. One of the mills doesn't sell s2s and the quality of the other is not consistent. Buying 13/16 makes sense but would still require a pass on the planer. And I want to improve my current system. I use a wall/ floor mount direct connect for the table saw. My shop is 24 feet wide and one half is the assembly benches, hardware and some precut cabinet box material. The other half has the dust collector with a separator can at the front with the drill press, planer and shaper on wheels that I can roll out when I need them. I think a 6 inch metal trunk line about 15 to 20 feet from the dust collector is a good start. A 10 ft branch line off the trunk in flexible metal would get destroyed pulling in and out and being hung up when not in use. The table saw is in the middle of the shop and there is a space between the saw and the benches where I plane long stuff so running a 4 or 6 inch branch on the ceiling with a flexible drop is needed. Doing so would require 30' of pipe and 3 elbows. I don't want to build it and have to much suction loss at the machine port. My separator can is a 30 gallon metal trash can. My current set up works as designed its just a poor design and lacks efficiency. I want to rebuild it.
We use a dumpster which sits in a frame with a hinged top on it that has a seperator lid built onto it.
I buy skip planed. I like the convenience. I don't use just 3/4" material. I like nice true flat straight wood. You won't get that with milled lumber. It might be close, and you may get a few great pcs. But I want it all great and straight. I don't worry about chip disposal, my landlord makes mulch and I throw it into his piles. So it's just time.
I run a 1440 CFM cyclone on a 15" planer and it keeps up fine. 25' away with 6" ducting.
Jeff, I have a simialr shop and a 3hp Powermatic two bagger. I have 6" pipe that services a 20" 10hp planer, a 16" jointer, a 15" planer, Bandsaw and unisaw ( soon to be slider). I have about 25' of 6" and 6~8' of flex going to the 20" planer similar to the joiner it with a 6' hard drop then to 6' flex.
Simple things to avoid is long runs of flex hose, undersized pipe and hose, clogged bags, 90 degree quick turns, leaky gates, long vertical drops.
p.s. it's o.k. to mill your own lumber, but geez man the 15" is painfully slow. I picked up a 20" 10hp used euro thicknesser for the same as a new 20" Powermatic and it can take off 3/8" in a single pass. The Powermatic is like 1/16" right? The biggest jump in efficiency is realizing that you can then get two 8" boards through at once. It's hard to keep up by yourself. The larger thicknesser paid for itself right quick. It also has a tersa head so knife change out is about 2 minutes. I still keep the 15" Delta around since I had put in the Byrd head the year before. Nice to have both. But I don't use the Delta unless I have some seriously gnarly grain or super hard that needs the carbide.