I'm looking for some kind of French cleat system for hanging wall cabinets. This would optimally include the ability to affect in and out position as well as up and down for all four corners. Any suggestions?
From contributor M:
I use the Camar suspension system.
As far as Z bar, there is no adjustability (to my knowledge). If you are concerned with in and out movement, why not cup hinges that adjust in and out?
Think about it for a minute... The weight of all items stored in the cabinet is being supported by the sides anyway. The bottom of the cabinet is attached to the sides through whatever assembly method you use (screws, dowels, biscuits, connectors, etc). So any weight that is stored there is carried directly to the sides with the fasteners. Any weight that is stored on the shelves is carried to the sides through the adjustable shelf pins or whatever method you use for your shelves. The top really doesnít carry any weight, although I guess it does add some support to the top of the hangers since they are located tight to the top.
With the plant-on back method, the weight of the stored items is still being carried by the sides, but is then transferred to the back making some sort of structural back necessary (thick material or thin material and nailers), so you can screw the cabinet to the wall. Installation with the hanger system is a breeze. One person can easily handle a kitchen installation by themselves, barely breaking a sweat, with no special equipment necessary to lift and hold the wall cabinets in position.
I recently installed a small custom-made-to-fit-the-space kitchenette wall system that consisted of two 24" X 36" cabinets - one with one f.e. and one with both - and two 36" X 18", one sandwiched between the taller cases, and one sandwiched between a tall case and the wall. All had finished 1/4" false bottoms and 1 3/4" light valances.
These were installed against a back wall that *randomly* ran out in all directions which was sandwiched between two side walls that ran out of square to the back one more than 1/4" in 12" on both sides and out of plumb 1/8" in 36" on one end and 3/16" in 18" on the other. You've got to love framers and drywall guys/gals.
The unit was occupied and had stuff on the counter and the top of the fridge, and yet it took less than 3 hours by myself. Done. No need for independently adjustable corners.
Hung the wall cleats, furring out where needed. Removed the doors and hung the cases, pinched at the ff with clamps, marked the end scribes, removed and cut to mark, reinstalled, screwed cases together while holding/insuring the faces flush. Screwed through the backs and French cleat into the marked studs beyond with a few 2 1/2" screws. Scribed the left and right 1/4" false bottoms to their walls and applied. Swept up. Re-hung the doors, adjusted. Took the tools back to the vehicle. Done.
Then I even put the dishes and appliances back on top of the counter and the stuff back on top of the fridge... Minus the sudden appearance of wall cabinets, it looked like I had never been there.
Why the need for so much adjustment - isn't that why we shim/scribe things, to match things in the existing walls that are beyond our control?
Check out the cabinets on my website. All use Camar and all are made by me and installed by me alone. Once you try the Camar system, you will be sold.