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Covid 19 - Truth or Dare?
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Without getting lost in dead end political name calling, what is going on with this virus stuff?
Some people appear to be paralyzed with fear, some seem to laugh it off as a political move, some know a whole lot, and some know nothing about it.
I avoid most people as a matter of course. A handy predilection since it now matters to keep your distance. For me, it could be life or death since I am in the high risk group. I now plan on not engaging any live humans except at a distance.
I am thinking of the bell curve, not for infection rates, but for belief in infections, if you will. Where is the 'fat' of the bell? Who is at the thin ends of the curve, and why?
NPR has some good reporting, everyone else is inaccurate, breathless, don't care, care to much, or just runs gov't power show over and over. They are wrong more than they are right.
Whom to believe?
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All our bay area jobs are shutdown for 3 weeks, laminated panel company closed for 3 weeks. Hardware companies can ship currently.
Submittals not being approved for 3 weeks.
We prepared last week to make sure everyone in the office can work from home and tested it yesterday.
I doubt the death toll will in the US be much higher than a bad season of the flu.
We have 2 jobs that have exemptions that we can work on.
I can see needing more cash in 4-5 months as payments aren't going out.
My cruise to Alaska in May out of Vancouver will be cancelled in the next few days.
The worse thing for me is my 401k and future retirement accounts have taken a huge hit to where I will have about 15k-20k a year less in income
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The death toll in the US may not be worse than a bad year of the seasonal flu in a 3 month span as opposed to a 12 month span.
I cant see any way possible that covid is going to kill 20,000 US citizens with 136 of them being children. (the flu)
The problem as always is the uncertainty.
The effect on the economy is going to be catastrophic. The flu doesn't close restaurants and business. It doesn't effect supply chains.
Im finding the drama of the mainstream and cable news to be extremely nauseating as Im sure most are. Foolish dramatic unrealistic questions posed to officials who are damned if they do and damned if they dont with an answer.
I would completely agree, NPR has some of the most calm, unbiased, and fact based coverage.
I am very concerned that virtually no small business is going to be able to weather 2 months of down time (if thats all it is). I am thankful to have plenty of work and after a couple of lean years be in an uber low overhead situation that we may be able to hang on.
My blind optimism is that the thing peters out and blows over in a month. But several of my customers are schools and health care facilities and they are all speaking to mid/late summer.
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Advantage of being a sole proprietor single guy is I'm isolated. Wife works from home and my youngest (22 yo) is still in college and since that's closed he's now isolated too.
I called up my main supplier and their people don't plan on closing down unless the FED forces them to.
I think it's a big overreaction. It seems to be much easier to transmit to others, yes. But for the most part I'll bet that the mortality rate will be similar if maybe a little higher than the normal flu. The govt is basically destroying the economy over this. From what I've seen in reports the average age of people who have succumbed to this is 81. So far they've said children 10 and under don't seem to be affected. Up to about 50 yo the chance of death is less than .4% and as the age goes up so does the percentage, mostly due to compromised systems that tend to happen as you age.
The outrageous claims of some saying millions will die from this is scare tactics.
The biggest problem I see is that they haven't figured out exactly how it is transmitted from person to person. I've heard touching, airborne, surface contact. That it can't hang in the air, then all of a sudden they say it can hang out for 3 hours. One of the consistent things they have said is 3hrs on smooth surfaces like glass and metal.
I won't get into the political side of it because I think there is a big area of mistrust towards governments (around the world).
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Leo,
I think your position is overwhelmingly the norm. The problem is the metrics if just left to run their course could be disastrous (may be a better option).
Ive long had a philosophy that the fish tank needs a good purge once in a while. In this scenario that means a lot of people are going to hav eto sya goodbye to their 70+ parents and grandparents in a, perhaps, less than pleasant way (not that any way is pleasant).
To sound like a total douche, my concern isnt really the unpleasantry, (my entire family has passed and none of them were pleasant) but the cost to try to save it all on the way down.
To me the transmission and fatality rates when extrapolated out of the course of a year to compare to the average flu would be something I would never wish on anyone.
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Well I may get a little political here.
My Draftsman, a 22 yr old college student,a great kid ! I co- signed on his 5K loan so he could do a semester abroad in Rome Italy.
He came back last week, and already has gotten notice that since he's back, payments are due ! It Was a FSA Loan-WTF ?....
I said stay away for 2 weeks before you can come back to work, Yes -I am emailing him plans to work remotely.
Big Biz Get Bailouts... Small Biz gets loans we have to pay back...
I am an "Essential Worker" ! If I don't work -my family doesn't get health insurance !....To pay for those tests !
So-When our Illustrious leader today said he gives himself a 10! for what's happened so far LOL !
Here's his own 10 I give Him back...
1). It's one BIG HOAX folks
2). it's the same as the flu
3). it will go away on its own like magic
4). it will go away when the weather gets warmer
5). I don't take any responsibility for it
6). leave those 2,500 people on the Cruise Ship from Hawaii about to dock in Oakland, CA to remain out at sea, if I had it my way they would ALL stay on that ship because I don't want them to disembark to receive medical attention which would ADD to the number of Corona Virus cases in the U.S.
7). this will all be over by April (three weeks from today)
8). everyone should continue going to work if they have symptoms, it won't be a problem for anyone
9). we have everything under control no need to worry (new reported cases in the U.S. continues to rise by the hundreds per week.
10). we will have a vaccine soon in just a few days (the medical director of NIH very clearly stated that a Vaccine is far off at least 1 1/2 year at the earliest if not longer.
And # 11. I stocked up on T.P. for all the ...
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Well like David, I've been practicing "social distancing" for most of my life!!
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Mark, when this finally finishes up I think the mortality rate will be in the area of 0.1-0.3%. The way they are measuring it now is stupid. Known cases vs known deaths equals mortality rate. They brought these numbers up before any widespread testing was available. When they start doing 1000s of tests a day the mortality rate is going to plummet.
I don't wish death on anyone. But as it stands a normal flu season in the US is 20-80K deaths. And that's without shutting the country down and destroying the economy.
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Serious people are taking this seriously. You think the pro sports leagues just cancel their seasons on a whim? That schools and restaurants all over the country shut down for no reason? The nonsense from the President isn't what's frightening. It's the projections from people who know what they are talking about.
Maybe it will be less terrible than expected. That would be great.
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I don't care what anyone thinks. I don't care about people dying. There's about five people on the entire planet I care about.
It doesn't matter what you do, if It wants to spread, it's going to spread. That's going under the very ballsy assumption that it hasn't already.
If this spirals outta control, you're gonna wish they just let the virus burn through the population. If it goes to civil breakdown, a whole lot more people are gonna die from violence and starvation, or accidents involving avoiding the previous two. This place will go Walking Dead sans zombies in hurry.
This whole debacles does put into question whether or not the 1st Amendment is a power the people can handle.
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Our shop is four people total. One of my builders uses a couple of shops, one of which is good sized. I called the builder today and told him if the other shop is forced to stop work because of their size, I'll take the jobs and we WILL hammer them out.
I will not let this stupidity kill my company, and if grants me an opportunity, I will take it.
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Two of my favorite quotes:
From Persian folklore: "This too shall pass."
From Phillip K. Dick: "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away."
Both seem applicable in the current situation. I think that the low numbers are reflective of a diminished capacity to test people, as if to say "We can't test you for it, so you must not have it."
Perhaps the number of confirmed cases will be in direct proportion to the number of test kits available. Sounds like one of Donald Rumsfeld's "unknown knowns". Or maybe one of his "known unknowns".
Two weeks ago, this was a hoax, and it was all Obama's fault. Now, the government encourages "social distancing" and are looking to put forth a trillion dollar bailout. The complete turnaround would be funny if it weren't true.
Like others here, I was social distancing when social distancing wasn't cool, and long before it was a Presidential recommendation. I truly feel bad for those who don't have the situational flexibility or financial resources to endure this dilemna.
Good night and good luck.
TonyF
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I am with Paul Downs, good practices prepare for the worst, then hope for the best, this has always been a good principle.
I mean really is asking someone to wash their hands multiple times in a day such a bad thing.
My 85 YO mother is Quarantined, Once it gets close you will care.
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It is group think driven my media hyperbole.
The scary part is the mass hysteria and the fallout from that.
I doubt very much that this will be worse than any flu season
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I hope you are right.
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Do I think this is a hoax? absolutely not. This is very real, but is it worth tanking the economy over? not a chance.
They keep talking about a nationwide quarantine, what happens to guys like Karl, myself and all the other small shops that can keep our employees going through this? I know my guys rely on that paycheck being there as we all do.
How come Tesla is still operating normally as of yesterday afternoon? Even though Alan said the bay area is shut down for 3 weeks.
Don't get me wrong, I do take this seriously as my parents have compromised immune systems and are at the most risk. We are in the north part of Chicago which increases or odds of exposure anyway. But me at 38 i'm not worried.
But do I think this is a media induced panic frenzy with the election coming up, Absolutely!
A nationwide quarantine would most definitely push us into what Karl describes above.
I apologize for the rant, I'ts just been many years of hard work to get the company at a good place and now the outcome is very uncertain...
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In my state of CT we currently have 68 cases and 0 deaths. The front page of my local rag say there are likely thousands of cases in CT, sighting this without evidence. And reading the article they are guestimating there are 6000 cases that have gone undiagnosed.
So what this means to me for the most part is this is very overblown if we have all these cases and no one is dying from it. The overblown estimate of 2-5% mortality is more like .1-.3%, just like the normal flu.
They have destroyed the entire planets economy over this. Over in China there were 3200 deaths out of 1.5 billion people.
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Here is a are the real numbers on this
Real Data
The reported numbers are low because no one is tested. The number of infections is almost the same as the number of test kits. Why? Think about it. Without testing, we are blind. Trump told the WHO the US did not need any test kits. He also cut $700M from the CDC budget and closed the fast response office of the CDC that was formed to respond quickly to these threats. He and his gang of buddies have repeatedly misinformed his subjects to the point where confusion is the most prevalent response.
The best science is estimating there are 10 times more cases than now known in US. Today's number is 600, or 6,000. That number will double about every 3 days. In a 10 days, that is over 6 million. The math is where it is scary. Then it doubles again, and again.....
Our leaders are idiots. Our medical community is hamstrung/unprepared (due to the prevailing thought stated in the above posts) and on the verge of being overwhelmed.
120,000 ventilators in the US. 6 million cases will require every one of those ventilators for up to 2 weeks. Zip! We are out of those, and that is when we will have to just let people die because we can't help them. No rooms in the hospitals, so stay home and please wait for the wagon to come by before you bring out the dead.
There will be too many sick people to deal with.
Paul Downs said it best - "Serious people are taking this seriously." Cancel the NCAA???!!! Cancel SXSW??!! Hundreds of millions of dollars lost not by overreacting, but by biting the bullet.
Pat's link is excellent for a big picture, but remember, there is almost no testing being done, so we are only counting about 1 in 10 cases.
What I keep waiting for is when is a real, global, conversation going to emerge with regards to tradition/ritual/whatever, eating bush meat is at the root of many of these nightmares and needs to come to a quick end. Fruitcakes pecking the skull caps off monkeys anteaters and consuming bats and lord knows what else, in a global economy, needs to get whittled down and fast.
Kansas killed school for the rest of the year. Many small business in my state (West By God, the last state to have a confirmed case) are just closing because the cost to stay open with such reduced revenue is a hemorrhage worse than closing for a period. The conversation has been going on here for a week now that school will not be resumed this school year. And how will those hours be made up?
Ive yet to hear of any health care projects being idled but my guess is in this industry that will be soon to come. We have a heath care facility job going now and anyone entering the building must go through the front, temp check, sit at nurses station, answer questions, be logged in. If anything gets worse I would imagine the other 10 locations slated for renovation will be shelved.
Some other customers are still issuing P.O.'s that are in the retail trade with trade shows in the near future that have all been canceled. I had assumed all those P.O.s would go on hold but not yet.
Got this a short while ago,, the Lawyers are now involved
Yeah, and the guy who thinks this is all a hoax or needs his paycheck for his family or his truck payment just signs it so they can get paid. Then of course the fear is if its found you consciously lied about your exposure or symptoms.....
Gonna get freaky.
Regardless of our own opinions of how this is being handled, there is no doubt at this point that business is going to slow down drastically for all of us at some point. For me, I'm booked for about 6 weeks and after that I expect it to dry up completely.
The question in my mind is what to do at that point? I have enough saved to weather a storm for 6 or 8 months. But do I pay my overhead costs? Who is going to evict me if I don't? Do I pay my insurance premiums?
Cash is going to be king. The more effective our government is at "flattening the curve", the longer the economic downturn is going to be.
David
As the quantity of testing goes up the mortality rate as percentage will go down because the denominator will be larger and numerator will remain the same.
After seeing the reaction by the public to this virus, it's no wonder the government would never tell us about aliens....
Matthew,
Option #3 is to just kiss it up to god and go on, hope it blows over and is nowhere near as bad as it could be.
My gut feeling is the blows over option but I have several markers in my life where I was like "bah.. there is nothing to worry about" and someone sitting next to me said, "dude, your nuts Im getting out of here" and had I sat there thinking they were a bunch of chicken littles things would have gotten real bad, real fast.
I try to find the balance in there somewhere but that idiot invincible 18 year old is still in there somewhere 40+ years later...
When you see these big virus balls in the street run you know you are near infection, that's what I am looking for.
Star Trek Voyager had an episode that had Macro Viruses that grew the size of basketballs. LOL
Pats Johns Hopkins site has gone up 8K confirmed cases in 6 hours.
The truth of the matter is that it is really not in our control.
The plan is simple, conserve cash and wash your hands. There is really not much else you can do.
I believe the media coverage is causing the panic that is tanking the market. That's a problem.
Mark
You need to take the site into context. It counts worldwide population (minus Greenland for some reason) so another 6K isn't really that many.
The US is now going to be testing furiously and that is going to produce a new and ongoing spike.
It also looks like S. America and Africa are starting to be put into the equation whereas they weren't really that active as of yet.
Remind me how many people are on the planet?
John's Hopkin interactive CV19 map
If you look at S Korea where are doing the most testing the mortality rate is around 1%,
Ergo more testing lowers the mortality statistics.
Also the median age of the population may be a factor. Italy is at 45.5 years, S Korea is at 41.8 years, US is at 38.1 years
Median age by country
Everyone keeps saying we don't really know how many people have it b/c everyone hasn't been tested. So what? Does everyone get tested for the flu every year? You don't think the number of cases of the flu isn't higher every year than those tested for it? I've had what was most likely the flu many times and have never gone to the doctor to get tested or treated for it as I'm sure many other people haven't either. It's highly likely that if I or others contract COVID-19 that the symptoms won't warrant a visit to the doctor for testing.
If you're in the high risk category you should have every right to your social distancing, and there should be charitable programs in place to get necessities to those who would prefer to avoid going into public as a precaution; or maybe just wear nitrile gloves and medical masks when going out like they do in China. On the flip side of that, everyone else should be able to continue going about business as usual with a few well advised sanitary precautions, or not.
We're all going to die one way or another. This one particular way isn't worth shutting down the global economy over. The virus isn't the hoax; the hoax is the blowing out of proportion to cause hysteria by those who would see the economy shut down for political and power gains. And so what if the NBA shut down it's season or schools closed down? Monkey see, monkey do(toilet paper, Hello?); no one want's to be seen as the bad guy who didn't heed the dire warnings if this really does turn out to be the Black Death of the 21st century; which is highly unlikely according to facts from CDC website. I'm good with being that guy. What good is all the precaution going to do when you're sitting around a campfire by the river in a loincloth trying to catch your dinner or standing in a breadline with your hand out?
Our county is only reporting positive cases, tests done by physicians through private labs that are negative are not reported so the numbers are skewed.
The WHO stats for China had the high mortality rate at over 80, smokers with other health issues, then over 70, then over 60. The mortality rate drops with age and health.
If negative tests aren't reported then the stats are useless.
If you want to manage it you have to measure it.
No statistics is worse than some/flawed statistics.
I think Steven has it right though
If this were as deadly as the Spanish flu and the global mortality rates were the same we are talking about 225 million to 375 million dead over 18 months.
Fortunately healthcare, sanitation, drugs have all vastly improved in 100 years. I just can't see the mortality rates hitting those numbers over the next 18 months.
(1000^3)*7.5*.03 (1000^3)*7.5*.05
The real race is a global race to a vaccine that works at an accelerated timeline.
There are some other efforts out there that are closer than 18 months. The most promising is the link below, based on a similar strain used to treat animals.
Link to article
Because the virus mutates that is tough.
Slowing it down is a good target
It seems to me that targeting the most vulnerable should be key.
Quarantining the economy is more about politics and very bad for business
Too much normalcy bias in the States. States very soon to be like Italy. If you are running around without a mask and goggles then you are asking to get it. It is airborne. To say that you do not care about people dying...you need mental help.
2008-09 best case outcome (25% chance my opinion)
The dominoes are days from falling beyond a point they can be tipped back up. There is simply way to much debt at every level- government, corporate, private and especially at the leveraged speculative level.
Anyone that lives in the world today should have enough basic science to understand the spread of disease. Whether public water well, sneezing or mosquito, disease transmission is a fact of life and also a regulator of life.
Yes, everyone must die, but is it OK for the instrument of death to be a fast food wrapper? Or failed response by the government? None of us wants to die this way, nor do any of us 'deserve' death by Corona. Since blame is a large part of the epidemiology of outbreaks, it gets confused with cause, effect, and reason. Toss in a little religion ("Pray it away" Pence!), and truth is gone and confusion reigns.
Steven's response is typical. He doesn't have it, doesn't plan on getting it, so he has no reason to change his behavior. The 2 week incubation delay rules out that logic.
There is no way (short of testing) that Steven knows if he is infected today. Infected today, not feeling too bad, certainly will still go to work, he could infect hundreds first generation, thousands by the third generation and millions by the fifth generation.
So, modifying Steven's behavior becomes a moral point. Not religion, but the morality of not doing enough (anything) to curb the spread cannot be questioned. He does not get to devalue other people's lives in order that his own not be curtailed in any way.
Americans are not known for logical thought, and it really shows in a conversation about the spread of a pandemic. The virus, as small as it is, behaves in a very controlled way, yet can affect a whole planet. Hell, it might even do what the Democrats could not do - defeat Trump.
David in you first sentence you said:
"Without getting lost in dead end political name calling"
It seems you are not quite following your own rule. This is essentially name calling.
Toss in a little religion ("Pray it away" )Pence!
Very difficult topic, no one really knows what is going to happen. I think we all hope for the best and plan for the worst.
A minority of the population is at greater risk, the government solution is to put everything on lock down in the mean time small business will drop like flies.
Not to mention agencies that will continue on in perpetuity like TSA, FEMA, Homeland Security, etc etc etc
Sorry door shop guy, (while I do appreciate your virtue signaling), I wasn't given much in the line of compassion. I'm too analytical.
The reason I don't care? According to seven seconds of google searching there is about 7.8 billion people on this planet. That's more than enough. As I said, there's about 5 people out of that 7,800,000,000 that I genuinely care about. Maybe another 10 that I would be concerned about. If all but that 15 blinked out of existence, I couldn't care less. Give me my dog and I'll just spend my remaining life walking and living hunter gatherer style. Probably happier, and likely healthier.
What this virus lacks, is perspective.
So wheres all the hand wringing over those few things?
https://ourworldindata.org/what-does-the-world-die-from
Here's a fun one in my few minutes of research. The TOP 10 CAUSES of DEATH! Read it like a talk show host, it's more fun that way.
https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/the-top-10-causes-of-deat You're not going to live forever, nobody is. I don't really care if I live to be eighty five, or through the next 85 minutes. It's all the same. You are nothing more than a spec of atoms and molecules spinning around on a rock, swirling around in a galaxy made up of billions of solar systems, whizzing through the infinite universe with billions of other galaxies. Nothing you do matters, nothing you accom
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By that chart, my 600 cases (from CDC) is way low - J Hopkins has 6,000 cases in the US.
No matter, the exponential growth cannot be argued.
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: 07/03
Re: Looking to grow!!
: 07/08
WOODWEB AND ME
: 07/15
Re: WOODWEB AND ME
: 07/16
Re: WOODWEB AND ME
: 07/16
Re: the business of wood slabs
: 07/16
Re: Prevailing wage
: 07/19
Re: Prevailing wage
: 07/19
Re: Overwhelmed
: 08/01
Re: Management structure
: 08/02
Re: Documenting Project Specifications
: 08/14
Re: Documenting Project Specifications
: 08/14
Re: Am I being reasonable????
: 08/19
Re: Am I being reasonable????
: 08/22
Re: IWF2014
: 08/22
Re: IWF2014
: 08/22
Re: IWF2014
: 08/22
Re: IWF2014
: 08/24
Re: Installation Vehicle
: 09/09
Re: Bad client
: 09/09
Re: Bad client
: 09/09
Re: Bad client
: 09/09
Re: safety issues
: 09/11
Re: Money in the mail
: 09/11
Re: Money in the mail
: 09/11
Re: Economy is clearly better
: 09/18
Re: Dealers for small custom shop
: 09/24
Re: Screening employees for ebola
: 10/01
Re: Screening employees for ebola
: 10/01
Re: moziak
: 10/08
Re: moziak
: 10/23
Re: Where do you post job listings?
: 10/24
Re: Need help with trailer options
: 11/06
Re: Pretty Good Review
: 11/29
Re: Pretty Good Review
: 11/29
Re: Pretty Good Review
: 11/30
Re: Contractor Mark Ups
: 12/09
Re: Contractor Mark Ups
: 12/10
Re: Contractor Mark Ups
: 12/10
Re: Contractor Mark Ups
: 12/10
Re: Yelp
: 01/13
Re: Additional Insured
: 01/14
Re: When to walk out on a job
: 03/05
Re: cnc resistance
: 03/08
Re: Closet shelf span
: 03/08
Re: Managerial Advice
: 03/08
where to buy ??
: 04/25
Re: where to buy ??
: 04/25
Re: where to buy ??
: 04/25
Re: Outsourcing the financials
: 05/22
Re: Getting shoehorned into a repetitive task
: 06/24
Re: GC Bond on fed job.
: 07/12
Re: Custom Furniture market data
: 07/22
Re: Anyone in Vegas?
: 07/24
Re: helper salary
: 08/11
Re: Shop Test for Job Applicants
: 09/03
Re: Salery for finish position
: 10/07
Re: Recovering from burnout?
: 10/09
South Carolina Floods
: 10/12
Re: We are the third bidder
: 10/28
Re: Unlicensed Contractors
: 10/29
Re: insurances
: 11/05
Re: stocking a line of cabinets to sell to contractors
: 12/12
Re: 6 hour Work Day....Is it Possible in the US?
: 12/18
Re: 6 hour Work Day....Is it Possible in the US?
: 12/20
Re: Tipping Delivery Drivers?
: 12/21
Re: Tipping Delivery Drivers?
: 12/26
Re: OSHA
: 01/16
Re: OSHA
: 01/17
Re: OSHA
: 01/17
Re: OSHA
: 01/17
Re: OSHA
: 01/20
Re: OSHA
: 01/21
Re: OSHA
: 01/21
Re: OSHA
: 01/21
Re: OSHA
: 01/21
Re: OSHA
: 01/21
Re: OSHA
: 01/21
Re: OSHA
: 01/21
Re: OSHA
: 01/22
Re: OSHA
: 01/23
Re: Toxic Employee
: 01/24
Re: Toxic Employee
: 01/24
Re: Toxic Employee
: 01/24
Re: Toxic Employee
: 01/24
Re: Toxic Employee
: 01/24
Re: Toxic Employee
: 01/25
Re: Need some opinions
: 01/24
Re: Need some opinions
: 01/24
Re: Need some opinions
: 01/24
Re: Need some opinions
: 01/24
Re: Need some opinions
: 01/24
Re: Being bad mouthed by competitors
: 01/25
Re: Being bad mouthed by competitors
: 01/25
Re: Business Mentor
: 01/28
Re: Lean Story
: 02/07
Curts Thumb
: 03/19
Re: Curts Thumb
: 03/20
Re: Curts Thumb
: 03/20
Re: Curts Thumb
: 03/20
Re: Curts Thumb
: 03/20
Re: Curts Thumb
: 03/24
Re: Curts Thumb
: 03/25
Re: CNC Investment
: 07/01
Re: CNC Investment
: 07/02
Re: Employee Side Work
: 08/18
Re: IWF Show
: 08/28
Re: IWF Show
: 08/28
Re: IWF Show
: 08/28
Re: IWF Show
: 08/28
Re: CNC in a high school woodshop
: 09/07
Re: CNC in a high school woodshop
: 09/07
Re: How do you compete with smaller shops?
: 09/15
Re: How do you compete with smaller shops?
: 09/15
Re: Shop Burden on Change Order
: 09/30
Semi Perpetual insurance
: 01/08
Re: Semi Perpetual insurance
: 01/09
Re: Pay as you go Comp
: 01/15
Re: Costing estimates
: 01/20
Re: Costing estimates
: 01/21
Re: Costing estimates
: 01/21
Re: Price matching competetor quotes
: 01/28
Re: Price matching competetor quotes
: 01/30
Re: Price matching competetor quotes
: 02/27
Re: 3rd day for new employee
: 02/16
Re: 3rd day for new employee
: 02/16
Re: 3rd day for new employee
: 02/16
Re: 3rd day for new employee
: 02/17
Re: Border Tax & Woodworking Equipment
: 02/25
Re: New Trends
: 03/17
Re: Hiring Employees
: 03/27
Re: Labor shortages: How to fix
: 03/31
Re: Labor shortages: How to fix
: 03/31
Re: Labor shortages: How to fix
: 03/31
Re: Amazon going to be selling cabinets soon
: 04/14
Re: Pay increase evaluations
: 05/27
Re: Lowering the cost of housing in America
: 10/03
Re: Lowering the cost of housing in America
: 10/03
Re: Contractor Change Order for Cabinet Mistake
: 10/26
Re: Employee Benifits
: 01/02
Re: Website Development
: 01/24
Re: Website Development
: 01/25
Re: Still sawing
: 03/26
Re: RIP Want Ads -- NOW where do I go for fresh blood?
: 04/04
Re: RIP Want Ads -- NOW where do I go for fresh blood?
: 04/04
Re: RIP Want Ads -- NOW where do I go for fresh blood?
: 04/04
Re: Cheaper line cabinetry
: 04/04
Re: Proactive Planning is Professional
: 04/13
Re: Bought stuff online and need a refund
: 06/29
Re: Honest Money Answers Please
: 07/15
Re: Honest Money Answers Please
: 07/16
Re: Charge for drawings
: 10/06
Re: Woodworking and Cabinet shows
: 02/14
Long Term insurance requirements
: 05/18
Re: Business
: 08/13
Re: Business
: 08/14
Re: TI
: 09/07
Re: You're welcome
: 09/19
Re: GC master agreements
: 03/06
Re: Covid 19 - Truth or Dare?
: 03/18
Re: Covid 19 - Truth or Dare?
: 03/18
Re: Covid 19 - Truth or Dare?
: 03/18
Re: Covid 19 - Truth or Dare?
: 03/29
Re: SBA Economic Injury Disaster Loans
: 03/22
Re: All Wood Products now Essential in PA
: 04/02
Re: keeping your workforce safe
: 04/01
Re: keeping your workforce safe
: 04/01
Re: keeping your workforce safe
: 04/02
Re: new machine - request a discount?
: 04/03
Re: Custom Furniture at a Cabinet Shop
: 04/11
Re: IWF - how are you inclined at the moment?
: 04/16
Re: Coronavirus first hand
: 04/24
Employees and Virus symtoms
: 05/02
Re: Employees and Virus symtoms
: 05/06
Re: reusable Safety/dust masks for our industry..... sources?
: 05/08
Re: reusable Safety/dust masks for our industry..... sources?
: 05/08
Re: Bypassing GC for work
: 05/30
Re: Is a recession coming?
: 07/31
Re: Is a recession coming?
: 08/05
Re: Is a recession coming?
: 08/06
Re: Is a recession coming?
: 08/06
Re: Is a recession coming?
: 08/12
Re: Does everyone here do residential?
: 09/02
Re: Does everyone here do residential?
: 09/04
Jobs and only 100 k in the USA ?
: 09/13
Re: So.....Covid? Election? Combination Thereof?
: 10/31
Re: Tracking jobs
: 12/18
Re: Getting qualified Help
: 02/10
Re: Getting qualified Help
: 02/16
Re: Getting qualified Help
: 06/28
Re: Should I train an employee software or sub out?
: 02/15
Re: Cabnetware software
: 02/18
Re: RTA flood?
: 03/14
Where Have All the Carpenters Gone?
: 04/13
Re: Where Have All the Carpenters Gone?
: 04/14
Re: How are you dealing with the mountain of backorders?
: 06/30
Re: Better pay = better employees?
: 07/08
Re: This was interesting
: 08/07
Re: Passing of a long time poster on the Woodweb
: 08/11
Cabinetmaking Forum
Re: Brandt edgebander question
: 11/01
Re: Need a supplier for 3mm edge banding
: 11/26
Re: Home show display
: 12/06
Re: Home show display
: 12/06
Re: scmi si 320
: 12/06
Re: Edgebander problem
: 12/24
Re: Edgebander problem
: 12/24
Re: Merry Christmas
: 12/25
Re: Professional fix or not?
: 01/16
Re: Edgebanders
: 01/18
Re: equipment upgrades?
: 01/21
Re: equipment upgrades?
: 01/21
Re: equipment upgrades?
: 01/21
Re: equipment upgrades?
: 01/22
Re: equipment upgrades?
: 01/22
Re: solid surface supplies and tools
: 01/26
Re: portable led lights
: 02/22
Re: portable led lights
: 02/22
Re: Edgebanding cutters
: 03/05
Re: allowing for crown molding
: 03/05
Re: Mdf
: 03/13
Re: Trying to find comparable item
: 03/26
Re: Plastic casework
: 04/28
Re: Plastic casework
: 04/29
Re: Decorative Bar Railings
: 04/29
Re: Decorative Bar Railings
: 04/29
Re: Solid Surface color variation
: 05/23
Re: Handy app for cabinet builders!
: 05/23
Re: Handy app for cabinet builders!
: 05/23
Re: Handy app for cabinet builders!
: 05/23
Re: Handy app for cabinet builders!
: 05/23
Re: Solid surface market check
: 06/20
Re: 3/8" inset hinges
: 06/23
Re: 3/8" inset hinges
: 06/23
Re: Folding desk hardware
: 06/24
Re: edgebander tape roll finish sensor
: 06/24
Re: Used uhaul trucks?
: 07/04
Re: Wall filler size
: 07/09
Re: Built-in microwave
: 07/16
Re: Edgebander repair services
: 07/22
Re: Wall mounted vanity
: 07/24
Re: Edgebander
: 07/26
Re: KD54 manual
: 09/14
Re: KD54 manual
: 09/14
Re: KD54 manual
: 03/12
Re: Inset with butt hinges
: 10/05
Re: Inset with butt hinges
: 10/05
Re: new tools for my shop have 1200 ft now moveing too 8000 spot
: 10/10
Re: new tools for my shop have 1200 ft now moveing too 8000 spot
: 10/15
Re: Wages???
: 11/04
Re: notching 2x4
: 12/09
Re: Edgebanding Suppliers
: 12/10
Re: Blum Dynaplan fix.
: 12/12
Re: Blum Dynaplan fix.
: 12/12
Re: Blum Dynaplan fix.
: 12/14
Re: Blum Dynaplan fix.
: 12/16
Re: Blum Dynaplan fix.
: 12/16
Re: Edgebander options advice
: 12/27
Re: mobile machine bases
: 01/09
Re: High humidity
: 01/24
Re: Panel saw
: 01/26
Re: Doing takeoffs from PDF floorplan
: 02/02
Re: ADA Clearances
: 02/03
Re: ADA Clearances
: 02/03
Re: ADA Clearances
: 02/07
Re: ADA Clearances
: 02/07
Re: ADA Clearances
: 02/07
Re: Shop van and or delivery truck revisited
: 02/09
Re: Router bit question
: 02/09
Re: Router bit question
: 02/09
Re: p-lam on drawer fronts
: 02/20
Re: p-lam on drawer fronts
: 02/20
Re: p-lam on drawer fronts
: 02/22
Re: Carving
: 03/01
Re: Carving
: 03/01
Re: Carving
: 03/02
Re: Carving
: 03/02
Re: Buffing or Radius Scraping
: 04/09
Re: Buffing or Radius Scraping
: 04/10
Re: HEPL. HELP, shopping for edgebander, Any input on a used Brandt KDF530?
: 04/14
Re: preglued edgebanding
: 04/21
Re: source for large range hood corbels?
: 06/14
Re: source for large range hood corbels?
: 06/14
Re: Need to find this unique knob
: 06/24
Re: Edge Bander Glue everywhere
: 07/01
Re: Edge Bander Glue everywhere
: 07/06
Re: Edge Bander Glue everywhere
: 07/06
Re: Toekick Construction Methods
: 08/05
Re: Toekick Construction Methods
: 08/08
Re: Toekick Construction Methods
: 08/08
Re: Toekick Construction Methods
: 08/09
Re: Once again appliance specs suck
: 08/05
Re: The need for outsourcing in the new economy
: 09/29
Re: The need for outsourcing in the new economy
: 09/30
Re: Headboard with curves.
: 10/12
Re: Frameless cabinet questions
: 12/07
Re: EUROPEAN CABINET BACK MATERIAL
: 01/07
Re: Looking for hot air edgebander tips
: 01/15
Re: Looking for hot air edgebander tips
: 01/15
Re: Holzher Edge Bander
: 02/28
Re: Always use metal
: 03/02
Re: Always use metal
: 03/02
Re: wine cabinet
: 03/12
Re: Swirl Marks in Unfinished Wood
: 03/14
Re: Furniture Grade End Panels
: 03/16
Re: Just wanted to say hey, I'm new to the group
: 03/24
Re: Long media cabinet top
: 03/27
Re: Long media cabinet top
: 03/27
Re: Long media cabinet top
: 03/27
Cold Press panels
: 03/30
Re: Cold Press panels
: 03/30
Re: Cold Press panels
: 03/30
Re: Cold Press panels
: 03/30
Re: Hafele concepta 25 retractable bifold door hardware
: 04/13
Re: 1mm White PVC Edgeband
: 04/16
Re: Enlarging hole for bigger led spot
: 04/26
Re: Hinge plates
: 06/20
Re: Hinge plates
: 06/20
Re: Forklift
: 06/24
Re: New used bander
: 08/06
Re: Need Computer Layout for Cabinets
: 10/10
Re: Bar Foot Rail
: 11/26
Re: Questions for shops that buy cabinet box components
: 11/29
Re: Questions for shops that buy cabinet box components
: 12/02
Re: Contemplating a cnc router
: 01/02
Re: Contemplating a cnc router
: 01/02
Re: Contemplating a cnc router
: 01/03
Re: Contemplating a cnc router
: 01/03
Re: Pricing Commercial Cabinet Refacing
: 02/03
Re: Shaker style cabinets
: 02/04
Re: Line boring or CNC boring
: 03/23
Re: Line boring or CNC boring
: 03/24
Re: Line boring or CNC boring
: 03/24
Re: barn doors on cabinet
: 04/04
Re: Dimension Drawings
: 05/06
Re: Dimension Drawings
: 05/07
Re: Dimension Drawings
: 05/07
Re: Dimension Drawings
: 05/07
Re: Outsource plywood processing
: 05/10
Re: wood cooler lid
: 06/23
Re: damage by other trades after delivery
: 11/08
Re: Digital Locks
: 12/06
Re: Range Hood Cabinet Duct Access
: 12/12
Re: Saw Stop
: 12/20
Re: Saw Stop
: 12/20
Re: Saw Stop
: 12/21
Re: Saw Stop
: 12/21
Re: Custom Shop Cabinets
: 01/03
Re: Custom Shop Cabinets
: 01/03
Re: Flip up hinges
: 01/11
Re: boring machine recommendation
: 01/17
Re: boring machine recommendation
: 01/17
Re: half round fluted wood column source
: 02/01
Re: Closet Cabinet Widths
: 02/09
Re: Knock-in insertion ram hinges
: 02/22
Re: Hot melt glue and glue guns
: 03/09
Re: Do any of you suffer from chronic golfers elbow
: 03/11
Re: Do any of you suffer from chronic golfers elbow
: 03/11
Re: Press-in hinge insertion without a press
: 04/10
Re: 3/4 overlay face frame hinge
: 05/01
Re: Venner or Solid?
: 05/12
Re: Anyone know the name of this machine?
: 05/17
Re: Sliding table saw vs CNC
: 05/27
Re: Sliding table saw vs CNC
: 05/28
Re: Sliding table saw vs CNC
: 05/29
Re: Does anyone have one of these?
: 06/14
Re: Does anyone have one of these?
: 06/14
Re: Does anyone have one of these?
: 06/14
Re: Looking for right pellet glue for formica with my edge bander
: 06/17
Re: Selco Mechanic Charlotte NC area
: 06/25
Re: Selco Mechanic Charlotte NC area
: 06/26
Re: Panel saw parts
: 07/04
Re: contact adhesive
: 07/23
Re: Festool Sanders
: 09/01
Re: Sheet goods cut list optimizers
: 10/06
Re: Edgebander glue issues
: 10/11
Re: Architecttural Drawings
: 10/16
Re: Concelled/Hidden Hinge Issue
: 11/04
Re: Shop clothing, pants/shirts
: 11/05
Re: Building custom cabinets
: 11/23
Re: Stiles Machinery
: 11/27
Re: Stiles Machinery
: 12/12
Re: Blum tandom vs grass dynapro
: 01/26
App measure tools
: 01/28
Re: App measure tools
: 01/28
Re: App measure tools
: 01/28
Re: Toekicks built separate from cabs?
: 02/13
Re: Millwork Drawing Interpretation
: 03/06
Re: COVID19: An Open Letter To Our Woodworking Partners
: 03/26
Re: hot air bander choices
: 04/18
Re: Hanging Acrylic Panels with no nails
: 05/14
Re: Cnc Purchase, Technical Questions
: 05/29
Re: (one man shop) Questions and Machinery Needed For a New Cabinet Shop
: 06/05
Re: (one man shop) Questions and Machinery Needed For a New Cabinet Shop
: 06/05
Re: Plywood biscuits
: 07/30
Re: A little comic relief
: 08/29
Re: Long time contributor passed away
: 09/12
Re: Manually applying PVC edge banding
: 09/22
Re: Metal inlay in painted coumtertop
: 11/10
Re: Metal inlay in painted coumtertop
: 11/10
Re: Metal inlay in painted coumtertop
: 11/12
Re: Magic 2 sliding door hardware
: 12/05
Re: plastic sheet supplier
: 02/24
Re: antique bar hardware
: 02/28
Re: Looking for an advice on dowel cabinet construction methods
: 04/15
Re: Decorative wire mesh
: 04/28
Re: Glueing formica to old formica situation
: 05/16
Re: Glueing formica to old formica situation
: 05/16
Re: Shop Sabre Pro 408
: 06/24
Re: Shop Sabre Pro 408
: 07/01
Re: Brass Door Onlays
: 07/13
Re: Brass Door Onlays
: 07/13
Re: Designing/Purchasing Carts for Cabinetry
: 07/31
CAD Forum
Re: learning to draft- custom millwork
: 03/28
Re: 3d central models into cabinet vision 4.1
: 04/21
Re: cabnetware vs. cabinet vision
: 05/18
Re: cabnetware vs. cabinet vision
: 07/29
Re: cabnetware vs. cabinet vision
: 02/23
Re: Cabinet vision 2012 and windows 8
: 05/20
Re: Drawing programs for iPad
: 06/11
Re: CabinetPartsPro question
: 07/04
Re: How to find someone to do my drawings
: 08/05
Re: has anyone used cabnetware and gone to cabinet vision
: 09/14
Re: Breaking into Design
: 10/01
Re: Breaking into Design
: 10/02
Re: Breaking into Design
: 10/06
Re: convert to dxf file
: 10/16
Re: convert to dxf file
: 10/16
Re: Enchancing a .bmp image in Cabnetware
: 11/27
Re: Enchancing a .bmp image in Cabnetware
: 11/27
Re: Software for CNC
: 12/13
Re: Software for CNC
: 12/20
Re: Cabinet Software
: 12/21
Re: AutoCAD courses, fork in the road
: 12/22
Re: Sketch Up cabinet construction machining software
: 01/04
Re: Mozaik
: 01/07
Re: Mozaik
: 01/30
Re: Mozaik
: 02/01
Re: Mozaik
: 02/03
Re: Mozaik
: 07/09
Re: New laptop/software
: 02/04
Re: Mozaik Support
: 06/05
Re: Mozaik Support
: 06/07
Re: Mozaik Support
: 10/22
Re: KCD Software
: 08/07
Re: quick drawer front alignment
: 11/04
Re: UBC Logo
: 03/26
Re: Logo Toolpath
: 04/22
Re: Logo Toolpath
: 04/23
Re: Drawing Layouts On Floor - NEW CONSTRUCTION
: 08/13
Re: Mozaik
: 09/12
Re: cabnetware - user rights
: 10/28
Re: Cabinet Vision Graphics Problem
: 11/19
Re: Cabinet Vision Graphics Problem
: 12/01
Re: Cabinet Vision Graphics Problem
: 12/01
Re: Cabinet Vision Graphics Problem
: 01/13
Re: Cabinet Vision Graphics Problem
: 01/14
Re: Mozaik software
: 01/04
Re: DXF to cnc
: 01/08
Re: DXF to cnc
: 01/08
Re: 20/20 design USB key problems
: 02/05
Re: The Death Of CabnetWare
: 04/27
Re: The Death Of CabnetWare
: 04/27
Re: The Death Of CabnetWare
: 09/28
Re: The Death Of CabnetWare
: 09/28
Re: The Death Of CabnetWare
: 11/24
Re: The Death Of CabnetWare
: 03/01
Re: Minimum depth for home theater cabinet?
: 07/30
Re: 3d dxf models
: 10/14
Re: ArtCAM 2017
: 10/21
Re: Sketchup to V-Carve Pro
: 12/29
Re: CV9 Video Card
: 02/22
Re: CAD v. Vetrixc software?
: 03/14
Re: Curved crown molding.
: 09/30
Re: Curved crown molding.
: 09/30
Re: Curved crown molding.
: 09/30
Re: 3D Model for Carving Required
: 11/22
Re: Which is the best free software for generating CNC part program?
: 01/24
Re: Find some qualified help
: 04/04
Re: V Carve and Automation
: 06/18
Re: Adding Texture to .STL file
: 06/23
Re: V Carve Programmer Needed
: 07/04
Re: Import V carve desktop models into Alphacam
: 12/12
Re: DWG templets for cabinet accessories
: 01/18
Re: VCARVE CONVERSION
: 09/20
Re: VCARVE CONVERSION
: 09/20
Re: CADdirect
: 11/28
Re: CADdirect
: 11/29
Re: Software for non-CNC shops
: 04/07
Re: CabinetVision VS Mozaik
: 05/27
Re: CabinetVision VS Mozaik
: 06/09
Re: Source to outsource shop drawings
: 08/21
Re: Source to outsource shop drawings
: 08/26
Re: Mozaik post processors
: 08/25
Re: Mozaik post processors
: 08/25
Re: Mozaik software
: 10/04
Re: Another Mozaik Question
: 11/09
Re: Trouble Importing DXF's to Mozaik
: 11/25
Re: Vectric software
: 01/14
Re: Vectric software
: 01/14
Re: Mozaik, cabinet sense, others
: 05/31
Re: Mozaik, cabinet sense, others
: 05/31
Re: Mozaik, cabinet sense, others
: 06/05
CNC Forum
Biesse 13s Even Me !
: 07/02
Re: Biesse 13s Even Me !
: 07/02
Re: Biesse 13s Even Me !
: 07/02
Re: Biesse 13s Even Me !
: 07/04
Re: Biesse 13s Even Me !
: 07/08
Re: compucarve
: 07/08
Re: Bringing in a cnc
: 07/25
Re: Bringing in a cnc
: 07/25
Re: CNC Training
: 07/26
Re: New CNC
: 07/27
Re: New CNC
: 07/29
Re: New CNC
: 08/05
Re: Source HSK63F tool forks
: 07/29
Re: Source HSK63F tool forks
: 07/29
Re: Biesse Errors
: 08/16
Re: X and Y axis
: 08/21
Re: X and Y axis
: 08/21
Re: X and Y axis
: 08/22
Re: X and Y axis
: 09/03
Re: Pulled the Trigger!
: 08/28
Re: Pulled the Trigger!
: 08/28
Re: Aborted X left axis switch low error
: 08/31
Re: CNC equipment advise
: 09/18
Re: CNC equipment advise
: 09/19
Re: CNC equipment advise
: 09/20
Re: Multicam 3000
: 09/20
Re: CNC Schematics
: 10/01
Re: CNC Schematics
: 10/01
Re: CNC Woodturning
: 10/06
Re: Vacuum not enough?
: 10/08
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-The seasonal strain of the flu kills 650,000 people globally each year.
-Mosquitos kill about 700,000 people per year. (the earth's most dangerous animal)
-Conflicts and battle take roughly 125,000 per year.
-Automobile accidents account for about 1.2m per year.
One site I looked at said in 2017, 56 million people died globally. I didn't care about that number, and if you're honest with yourself, neither did you.
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