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Blum thick door hinge

12/1/16       
Richard

I need to find a blum pattern thick door hinge which opens to at least 110 degrees, and be a free swing model.
The blum B71T7530D-125 would be perfect but it doesn't come in a free swing.
Does anyone know if there is such a hinge, or is there a way to disable the self close feature on the above hinge?
Thanks, Richard

12/1/16       #2: Blum thick door hinge ...
Jason Balm  Member

Website: waukeecabinetworks.com

Could a 170 work? I'm certain you can get a free swinging version and also add a restriction clip that will limit that hinge to 130 degrees. You will need to test it if your door is thicker than 15/16".

12/2/16       #3: Blum thick door hinge ...
Dennis Bean  Member

Website: http://www.saliceamerica.com

Richard,

All "thick door" hinges on the market are either a 94 degree or a 155 degree opening.

How thick is the door that you need to open? Would you like soft close?

12/2/16       #4: Blum thick door hinge ...
Dennis Bean  Member

Website: http://www.saliceamerica.com

oops! Never mind the "soft close" question....I see you are asking for free swing.

How :thick" is the door?

12/2/16       #5: Blum thick door hinge ...
Richard

Dennis the door is for a medicine cabinet. So I have a 3/4" slab and then a 1/4" mirror, so with silicon probably ending up at around 1 1/16"

12/2/16       #6: Blum thick door hinge ...
Bob Harkleroad

I've used 1/2" slab and 1/4" mirror to solve that. My 2 cents.

12/3/16       #7: Blum thick door hinge ...
Dennis Bean  Member

Website: http://www.saliceamerica.com

As Bob mentions, the ½” slab with a ¼” mirror is a common approach. The challenge here is the cup depth of the hinge. I think you would be Ok if you through-bore the ½” panel first, apply the mirror then install the hinges (carefully). In this case, almost any 110 degree free swinging hinge with an 11mm cup depth would be suitable.

If you want to stay with a ¾” substrate and the mirror then a thick door hinge would be required as most standard hinges, can accommodate a thickness of only about 22mm. As Jason mentioned, the 170 or 165 degree hinge would work if using a restriction clip. You should be able to find two types of restriction clips. One that stops the door at 110 degrees and another that stops the door at 125 degrees. A free swinging, 165 degree hinge should not be a problem to locate.

It has been my experience however that the full 165 degree opening is preferred for medicine cabinets. Most of the high end national manufacturers of medicine cabinets use a wide angle hinge. Some even apply a mirror to the back of the door as well. I think you will have a problem locating a “free swing” thick door 165 degree hinge however. Salice offers a thick door, 94 degree hinge in free swinging but not in the 165 degree hinge. (See page below).

I assume you are looking for free swinging hinges to use in conjunction with touch latches since there will be no handles on the mirror.

An alternate idea would be to consider the Salice thick door, 155 degree hinge with the “Push” to open feature. The movement of the Push hinge will open the door much further than a touch latch and permits a handle free surface on the door. The door is held closed by a small magnet. This is also a common technique used by the manufacturers of medicine cabinets with thicker doors and no handles. (See illustrations below). This Push hinge can accommodate doors up to 1-1/4” thick with very small gaps (3mm) between even the thickest of doors. This approach also eliminates the need for a touch latch which seldom work well over the long haul. Salice Push hinges and Blum hinges have the same boring pattern.

Are there more than 2 doors in your layout? Is it to be frame or frameless construction? Are the doors overlay or inset? The answers to these questions will also influence your choices.

Please forgive my lengthy reply here but I find this topic rather interesting due to the many possible solutions.

My 2 cents…


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12/3/16       #8: Blum thick door hinge ...
Richard

Bob and Dennis thanks for your replies. At this moment the 1/2" slab door will be my last resort since I have everything installed and set up for the 3/4" slab.
Dennis you are correct that there will be no handles and a push catch.So I do like the idea of the Salice thick door, 155 degree hinge with the “Push” to open feature, it does seem to achieve everything I need.
The cabinets are full overlay frameless with a single door, to which I had to add a "frame" since the contractor left the opening with rough sheetrock.
What would be the hinge model # for this application?

12/3/16       #9: Blum thick door hinge ...
Gary

Richard I make my mirrored doors with 5/8 and 3/16 mirror and use Blum 125 all the time we make most of our door 7/8 thick and use Blum 125 without any problems

12/4/16       #10: Blum thick door hinge ...
Dennis Bean  Member

Website: http://www.saliceamerica.com

Richard,

In addition to the hinge and mounting plate, you will also need the magnetic release device and the nail-on strike plate.

Here are the part numbers (also circled below):

DPMSNB - Magnetic release device
DP28SN9 - Strike plate
C2RTA99 – 155 degree thick door hinge, full overlay, Push open with dowels
BAR3R09 – 0mm clip-on mounting plate, wood screw attachment.

I must note, this hinge will probably be a special order for your local Salice distributor since it is a rather specialized item. If you have any problem ordering this, just send me an email and I will help you out.

Thanks,

Dennis


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12/6/16       #11: Blum thick door hinge ...
Richard

Thanks Dennis, I look forward to seeing how these hinges work.

 

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