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Panel Saw Purchase

2/2/22       
Shawn Member

Website: Engrained. gap (Instagram)
 I own and run a very busy 4000 sq ft 5 man cabinet shop (including my self) and we are in the process of upgrading our 2007 scm 10' panel saw to a brand new one.
The reason for my post is because we have narrowed it down to basically 3 saws, only one of which Im truly interested in, but given the investment thought it may be worth seeing what kind of feed back is available.
So here they are ( in order of consideration)
1. Altendorf WA 80 x 3200 -
2. Cantek D405ANC -
3. SCM nova si 400 ep -
So the scm if my least favorite, we currently are replacing one, its a decent saw, but want a more robust saw with more features.
The Cantek is the least expensive by a long shot, but I have made it a rule to stay away from asian machines and question its longevity and electronics.
Naturally the Altendorf is the one Ive chosen so far given all the great things I hear about them.
Any and all feed back is welcome, emails, phones calls welcome.
Thank you

2/2/22       #2: Panel Saw Purchase ...
RichC

Personally I would be looking for a used Striebig if I was shopping/

2/2/22       #3: Panel Saw Purchase ...
Ken Member

RichC maybe if he was shopping for a vertical. I have a 1996 Altendorf F45 and I wish someone would steal it so I could buy another one (joking). I looked at the new ones at AWFS and if mine wasn't in perfect condition I'd buy another Altendorf in a second. Martin would be my only other consideration.

2/3/22       #4: Panel Saw Purchase ...
Karl E Brogger  Member

Website: http://www.sogncabinets.com
 Kolle
Panhans
Martin

Kolle is out if you have to have new.

If I were shopping for a sliding tablesaw, those are the only ones I'd be looking at.

Do you just cut sheet stock at this position? If so, Rich is right, get a Streibig.
2/3/22       #5: Panel Saw Purchase ...
chris -

i agree with a martin. had ours since 1990 with no issues still cuts very true.

2/3/22       #6: Panel Saw Purchase ...
Tom Gardiner

Isn't the WA 80 an asian made Altendorf?

2/3/22       #7: Panel Saw Purchase ...
Peter Matos

Striebig is the way.... The new ones look freaking amazing.

2/3/22       #8: Panel Saw Purchase ...
Kevin

I'm with Karl on his assessment, If I was buying new. Altendorfs are not what they used to be, I think at this point they are coasting on a good name they had. F45s up to about 2015ish where solid. now they just build to a price.

2/4/22       #9: Panel Saw Purchase ...
JKL Machinery  Member

Website: http://www.jklmachinery.com

Striebig, 2.5 x faster than any slider and predictably most accurate

2/4/22       #10: Panel Saw Purchase ...
Chris Hofmann

Website: https://www.csaw.com/striebig-vertical-panel-saws/

Good morning and thank you Rich, Karl, Peter, and Joe for chiming in here.

Shawn,
You should certainly at least consider a vertical panel saw during this evaluation process. I had one in my shop years ago [wish I had had a Striebig though;)] and it's really the best way to process panels, especially for a small to mid-sized shop. Striebig is the world's best vertical saw - it's all they have ever built. Swiss quality and precision.
Yes, every shop needs a good-quality tablesaw for ripping bevels, but sliders take up a TON of space for panel processing. So, if you cut a lot of panels, think about how much space you're giving up in that 4,000 sq ft shop when there is a better way to do it and save a lot of floor space.

Striebigs saws:
1. Very safe (blade is completely shrouded during the cut)
2. Incredibly accurate (cuts within 0.004" across diagonals)
3. Extremely durable (we have MANY 25-30+ yr-old saws out there still

running daily)
4. Saves tons of space compared to a slider (only takes up about 4' off the

wall)
5. One-man operation: vertical loading/unloading, you can rotate a

sheet end-over-end easily while it's on the frame, and you're moving the

saw over the sheet surface, rather than moving the whole sheet over

stationary blade on a table saw or slider

Scroll down through that page in the link. You'll see customer success stories, more information, and our lesson series on YouTube.

Please let us know if you'd like any more info!

10/16/22       #11: Panel Saw Purchase ...
Sean Kovacs  Member

Website: http://www.kovatechcnc.com

buy a Martin and you'll have 25 years of worry free operation and quality. Ive installed that Cantek model and for a small beginner shop its fine, but after 10 years its done. The Altendorfs arent what they used to be (unless you buy the Made In Germany version) and SCM are okay but dont wow me too much. I have a customer with a Martn and holy smokes is that a well built machine!

 

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