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edgebander issues


We are a shop located outside of Philadelphia. Our facility is climate controlled pretty well throughout the year. We are currently using a KDN-210 Brandt edgebander. It gives us trouble with .5mm edgebanding. It continually tracks off the edge of the panel. Some species run pretty well like cherry and synthetic vinyl edges. Sapele and maple run with very poor results. Also when we are edgebanding veneer core plywood that may not be perfectly flat is causes very poor results. My first thought was that the quality of edgebanding just isn't quite good enough. We are currently buying our edgebanding from a company called edgeco. INC. Also this edgebander performs very poorly when trying to edge 3mm thick vinyl edges. We are to the point where we need a machine that can edgeband 3mm vinyl and 3mm wood rolls onto any substrate. We are ok with buying new or used. What machine would you recommend and any thoughts on our supplier for edgebanding would be appreciated.

3/31/15       #2: edgebander issues ...
Doug Member

If properly calibrated and maintained this machine should run .5mm edgebanding off all types with good results. When was the last time that you had a Stiles technician give it a maintenance? I know that it cost a bunch of money to have someone come in there but so does touching everything up by hand. As far a 3mm coiled material goes you are going to get mixed results off of this machine. The pressure zone is a little light for consistent 3mm work in my opinion. The likelihood that you are having quality issues from the coiled material are very small. Get the machine some maintenance and while the technician is there make sure that you fully understand how to operate it and have a good grasp on its capabilities.

3/31/15       #3: edgebander issues ...
Rich Kuban Member

All of your comments refer to materials and the machine. After operating four different edgebanders over 28 years, my experience is the most common problems are caused by the machine operator making adjustments not fully understood. Since you run a range of materials and thicknesses, I suspect the operator is making adjustments that are compounding the issues.

An experienced and knowledgeable technician needs to fully evaluate the machine to make sure their are no defective components. Then he needs to calibrate and document settings for various banding sizes and thicknesses as well as various materials and thicknesses. The operator(s) need to be trained to use these settings when making changeovers from one material to another. Banding thickness can and does vary from one roll to the next. I experienced this and learned it was a factor in edge quality.

I would then run a large job that uses the same materials and thicknesses to see if issues occur during the run. If so, I would suspect a machine problem still unfound. If none found, I might try another outside technician with fresh eyes. If no issues occur, then I would pay attention to the operators potential introducing issues intentionally or unintentionally.

Edgebanders do multiple simple processes precisely with a variety of materials and sizes. You have a quality machine that should have no problems when properly maintained and operated. Lack of understanding of the mechanics lead to problems.

4/28/17       #4: edgebander issues ...

Is the MiniMax ME20 a good machine for running laminate..Please advise..I thinking that glue bonding is better than hot air.Would you agree..Thanks Keep Smiling

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