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Hinge Pressing

Matt M. Member

Looking at adding the nesting option for new edgebander so we can hinge bore on our CNC and then edge band. My question is, has anyone seen or familiar with an automated system for pressing the hinge in place similar to how the hinge bore and press for Salice, Blum etc. works? I would place this in the production line after the bander.

5/15/15       #3: Hinge Pressing ...
Dennis Bean  Member


For those using a CNC to bore the hinge locations the hinge is later installed using the standard hinge machine to press the hinge in. This requires the door to be moved to the hinge machine location and assumes the fence stops on the hinge machine are properly positioned to correspond to the location of the hinge cup hole previously bored on the CNC.

Others simply knock the hinge in with a mallet after edge banding.

As a second choice, there are tool free hinges available that are inserted by hand then locked in by pressing the cover down or by turning a locking cam screw.

Salice offers both types; Called "Logica" or "Rapido". Both methods are very efficient.

For high production capabilities there are single and dual head automated hinge boring and insertion machines available. With a single operation the hinge cup is bored and the hinge (or hinges) is automatically inserted.

Omal, a Salice partner makes a selection of these machines. See link below.

Omal Hinge Boring and Insertion Machine

5/15/15       #4: Hinge Pressing ...
Matt M. Member

Thanks Dennis.

5/18/15       #5: Hinge Pressing ...

Matt, The problem with boring the hinge cup before banding is usually the tracing wheels on your bander will fall into the 35mm cup hole and scalp the surface. It is possible to retro fit the bander with shoes in place of the wheels but that has another draw back, some times picking up something that scratches the laminate. Another solution is to put plugs into the cup holes and then remove them after banding. A PIA! Do some test runs to see if your bander tracing misses the holes.

5/19/15       #6: Hinge Pressing ...
Matt M. Member

OK Guys let me add a little info here: I'm buying a bander with the nesting option so I can band after I bore hinges. For my setup it is more optimal to do this, trust me. I already own a salice and blum drill press for boring and pressing the hinge in place. I'm looking for a small, stand-alone press to just press the hinge in place. I realize I can do this with the hinge bore machines, but I'm looking for something more streamlined. I would appreciate any advice if you know of any manufacturers that make that type of machine.

5/19/15       #7: Hinge Pressing ...
Dennis Bean  Member



I have never seen a machine like you describe (26 years in the hinge business).

Your best bet will still be your Salice or Blum machine. You will not need to bore with them but could still press in the hinges. Since the hinge machines are already outfitted with a precision fence and stops it wouldn't be much to set the stops to correspond to the location of the hinge cup holes from the top and bottom of the door. Both machines are also already outfitted with an insertion ram to hold the hinge in position for the press-in operation. This is not an uncommon operation with companies that bore for the hinges on CNC.

Actually though, most companies I have encountered use the CNC for many operations but still bore and insert the doors on their hinge machine. That way they are boring and inserting in a single operation at a single work cell.

You might also want to think about boring for the hinges after edge banding. This way, if you use different thicknesses of edge banding the hinge cup edge bore will remain a constant for all doors. If you bore for the hinges first, then apply the edge banding you will be faced with the hinge cup location from the edge being different based on the edge banding thickness (1.5mm, 3mm, etc...).
The tool free (or semi-tool free) hinges like Logica or Rapido are probably the best installation method if you decide you want to use your CNC for hinge boring. Still, you will want to consider edging first so you do not have to change the hinge cup location based on the edge banding thickness.

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5/19/15       #8: Hinge Pressing ...
Matt M. Member

Thanks Dennis, I was hoping to avoid using the old drill press(s), but there you have it. We will adjust our engineering accordingly to account for the fact that we are boring prior to edge banding but even so, the adjustment in the hinge should take care of the cup position being slightly out of whack. I will run several prototypes before hand to make sure we have everything dialed in. Thanks again.

5/19/15       #9: Hinge Pressing ...
Bruce H

It is interesting to me that you, Matt M., would take the time to try and insert the hinges with another machine but not care about "cup position being slightly out of whack" with the changes in band thickness. Seems a bit counter productive if you are having to fool around with hinge adjustments to make your doors fit.

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