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Touch and lift door hardware?!

9/30/15       
Ben C Member

Thanks in advance guys.

I'm looking to source door hardware that touches to open(Blum tip-on), and lifts the door(Blum Aventos). Pretty sure I can't use
these two bits of hardware together because of the Aventos, but I gotta imagine someone has made a product that touches and lifts. My job is a modern styling with no handle hardware. Any ideas?

Thanks!
Ben

9/30/15       #2: Touch and lift door hardware?! ...
Pat

I did something similar a few years ago. The doors were aluminum frame with glass panels. I used Blum free-swing hinges, Stabilus Lift-O-Mat gas struts and generic magnetic touch latches. The key is getting the correct strut (based on weight of the door) and positioning the strut mount so the strut is exerting almost no tension on the door when it's closed. My doors were approx. 26"W x 12"H and I think I used one strut per door.

Cheers,
Pat

10/1/15       #3: Touch and lift door hardware?! ...
Leo G  Member

Website: http://www.lrgwood.com

Blum has a servo Aventos. It's powered but does what you want. It also powers closed.

10/1/15       #4: Touch and lift door hardware?! ...
Dennis Bean  Member

Website: http://www.saliceamerica.com

The Salice flap door hardware combined with Salice self opening “Push” hinges will do exactly what you are asking.

The lift kit is comprised of the lift arm mechanism, auxiliary Smove piston, door mounting plate and cover. The primary piston is selected according to the size and weight of the door. There is a top hinge kit ordered separately that includes Push to open hinges and mounting plates and the catch device. All screws and a mounting template are included. With a slight push on the door it will move to the full open position. To close, lower the door until the stay close latch engages.

For doors up to 16” one kit is required. This is ordered as either a left or right mount kit. For larger doors, 2 kits will be required (one left and one right).


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10/1/15       #5: Touch and lift door hardware?! ...
Ben C Member

Thanks much guys. Sorry I didn't see that sooner!

For a blum set it looks like its going to be $587 for just the servo(&parts) + the Aventos HK.
I have 1 MDF door that's 14"H X 40"W. It looks like from what I'm able to gather you only need one server drive. There is no direct literature on weight regarding the servo and its weight limits. Leo, given your experience, this should be adequate?

Dennis,

Thank you very much for the thorough response. Given I only have one door, what's the general price point of the package your proposing?

Thanks Pat! Good info. I was concerned about the tension of the compression unit. That and my mdf door is 14X40. Just worried about weight.

Thanks,
B

10/1/15       #6: Touch and lift door hardware?! ...
Leo G  Member

Website: http://www.lrgwood.com

Sorry, I only have experience with the non servo and it sounds like it would work with the door weight. Not sure how the servo works and I haven't used it because of...well... the price.

10/1/15       #7: Touch and lift door hardware?! ...
Dennis Bean  Member

Website: http://www.saliceamerica.com

Ben,

Depending on who your Salice distributor is, it will run you about $40.00 - $50.00.

BTW...instructions are also included in the kit. Just send me an email if you would like a full Salice technical catalog.

10/5/15       #8: Touch and lift door hardware?! ...
David  Member

Website: dtwoodworker.houzz.com

Ben, you can use the Aventos with servo drive. It will be touch to open and raise the door all the way up. It takes just a light touch and the door will raise up perfectly. I have used it on the HF. The servo drive part number for the HK is, 21KA000. You would also need the cover set and the power supply set. The power supply will power up to 20 openings I believe.

10/5/15       #9: Touch and lift door hardware?! ...
David  Member

Website: dtwoodworker.houzz.com

Ben, I forgot to mention that blum does make a servo drive brochure for the Aventos. In that brochure there are four different mechanisms for the HK depending on the weight of the door. They also give a formula for calculating which one you need. If you can't get your hands on the brochure you can get it on their website.

10/5/15       #10: Touch and lift door hardware?! ...
David  Member

Website: dtwoodworker.houzz.com

Actually it's not in the servo drive brochure, just the standard Aventos brochure. Sorry for any confusion.

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