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Plywood construction

1/30/16       
Up north Member

Hi everyone,

I've been following woodweb for years but never posted. I gained a lot of insights from discussions in this forum. Mostly from the business forum.

We are a small shop of 4 doing frameless contemporary kitchens based in the province of Quebec (my first language is french).

That said, being in Canada, the materials mostly used for boxes and panels is either particule board or mdf. Plywood is available but contrary to the United States, it's defenatly not in a shop's vocabulary. Still, I've been contemplating the idea of using plywood instead as I consider it to be of better quality (mostly for doors,drawers,end panels etc).

My question is:
every time I consider it, there's something getting in the way. Either the fact that plywood warp way too easily (even Russian plywood) or varies too much on thickness to be easily used on cnc.

How do you guys deal with this?
Do you have access to better plywood than I do?

Thanks a lot for reading!

1/30/16       #2: Plywood construction ...
Harold morantz

Website: http://morantz cabinets.com

I am an ex-quebecer, English speaking, that moved to Florida 11+ years ago. Most of my work is very modern as my market is Miami beach and Fort Lauderdale. Pre finished plywood interiors do not look that great with high gloss acrylic exteriors and I have always preferred melamine for interiors. Even the most expensive kitchens from Europe only use melamine and they have since WW2. The Europeans and Canadians have been way ahead in using ecologically sound products for decades. I only use plywood covered with a white laminate for the sink cabinets and use clear silicone in the butt joint during construction to prevent water infiltration. We also use the European floor liners to give extra protection from the inevitable sprayer failure. Never had a problem selling this except for the occasional mid- westerner, but they still swear by face frames.😎 we have two sliders and no CNC, so thickness variations is not a concern.

1/31/16       #3: Plywood construction ...
Up north Member

Hi Harold,

Thanks for responding! I guess you don't miss winters much?

I agree that the best material for the inside of cabinets is melamine as it's easy to maintain.Even companies like Bulthaup and Poggenpohl uses it.

I'm more talking about the drawer's front and doors. But more importantly, the end panels to be cut on site.
Right now we silicone thoroughly the bottom of each (and leave a 1/8 gap between panel and floor) and it works fine but I wish we had a more bullet proof solution.IE: plywood...

What do you mean by European floor liners? Could you attach a photo or link?

Thanks again!

1/31/16       #4: Plywood construction ...
Harold morantz

Website: http://morantz cabinets.com

Hi up north. I don't miss winter at all. Mon Payie ces't le soliel😎, to quote Gilles Venieuve. Sorry, I misunderstood you. We use the adjustable cabinet feet for all our cabinetry and 30"end panels that do not reach the floor. The toe kicks are plywood with veneer or laminate or stainless. They clip onto the legs. All the sheet good products we use are laid up on MDF or particle board. Our high gloss acrylic and textured melamine doors and drawer fronts are banded with a 2mm matching banding applied with a Cehisa Bander with rounding capabilities. Except in two extreme flood cases, I have never had them blow up from water. The door is completely sealed by the banding. Our toe kicks are 4.5" high and can be removed in seconds. If someone has a flood , and there is more than 4.5" of water, they have bigger issues than the cabinets. I do not have a picture of the base cabinet liners, but will try to find one. Richelieu has them and so does Hafele. They are textured like bubble wrap and will hold a lot of water, much like a rubber floor mat in a car. A bientot, Harold.

2/1/16       #5: Plywood construction ...
Up north Member

Harold,

Thanks again for the infos! We also use leg levelers. For the liner, If it's on Richelieu, I'll find it!

Thanks!


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