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First job using tip-on question

Bob  Member

Just finishing up my first full kitchen using Blum tip on for doors and a free swinging hinge. Would I be correct in assuming that I'm going to have door alignment problems due to twist and Warp.( no closing pressure from the hinges and door only being held at one end with the tip on magnet)
any tips or tricks would be greatly appreciated.

1/30/18       #2: First job using tip-on question ...
Jared Emery

You can use self-closing hinges and the long plungers, Blum #956A1006.

1/31/18       #4: First job using tip-on question ...

like Jared said , the selfclosing hinges are a much better option . You don't need the magnetic plate and the doors won't " fly " open when accidently bumped .

2/1/18       #6: First job using tip-on question ...
Bob  Member

Thanks for the input I have not ordered the hinges yet so I will change over.

2/5/18       #7: First job using tip-on question ...

Just curious, why would you use free swinging hinges? If you are new to Euro hardware there are lots of good things about the system. We use Blum Inserta, soft close 120's for most and Salice institutional for more abusive places. Medical work is almost always 5 knuckle Rockwell.

2/6/18       #8: First job using tip-on question ...
Bob  Member

I thought it would make the door pop open more with the first touch and I've been using blum hardware for a long long time. Have had a cabinet shop for 40 years now.

2/6/18       #10: First job using tip-on question ...
Bob  Member

I also thought there was no use for the soft-close feature since you have to touch the door and push it to close it anyway. I did not take into account that the closing pressure of the soft-close hinge would help with any door twist. Still not sure it's going to make any difference we'll see.

2/6/18       #12: First job using tip-on question ...
Dennis Bean  Member


Just thought I would jump in here. We are seeing more contemporary cabinet and furniture designs that do not include surface hardware....The minimalistic look. Due to this, the tip-on type hardware and Push hinges (Self opening) have gained in popularity over the past 10 years.

2/7/18       #13: First job using tip-on question ...
Bob  Member

So you still need mag catch with this hinge?
Are hinge plates same hole pattern and distance from cab face as blum?

2/7/18       #15: First job using tip-on question ...
Jared Emery

The plungers all have a magnet in the tip and a steel plate you can either stick on or screw onto the back side of the door for the magnet to grab. I use these only when using free-swing hinges. If I use self-closing hinges, I omit the magnets. Bob if I understand your question, you're asking if they're the same hole pattern as standard Blum hinges, and yes they are.

2/7/18       #16: First job using tip-on question ...
Bob  Member

Is there resistance when closing the push(self opening) hinges?

2/7/18       #18: First job using tip-on question ...
Jared Emery

The resistance is from the plunger. No matter what kind of hinge you use, the plunger's spring needs to be cocked by pushing the door in. It won't self-close and cock the plunger. It behaves pretty much like an old-fashioned touch latch. I'm not aware of a Servodrive-like system is available for doors, where you don't have to add extra energy to cock it for next use.

2/7/18       #19: First job using tip-on question ...

Bob, Sorry I mistook your question and I did jump to the wrong conclusion about your experience. Pretty sure the soft close feature won't cock the catch, someone has to push it.
We've even had free swings & plunger magnetic catches specified when they had pulls. No idea why. Some sort of decorator thing.

2/7/18       #20: First job using tip-on question ...
Bob  Member

No worries, the only other question I have is there resistance when closing the door from full open position using the push(self opening) hinges or does it act like free swinging when closing?

2/7/18       #21: First job using tip-on question ...
Dennis Bean  Member


The Salice Push hinge is based on a different technology than the tip-on. The Push hinge actually has a reverse spring that pulls the door open. The door is held in the closed position by means of a magnet with a pop-out tip. Once a small amount of pressure is applied to the door, the pop-out tip releases and pushes the door free from the magnet. It is at this point that the hinge (reverse sprung) takes over and pulls the door to nearly the full open position.

To answer Bobís second question, yes, there is some resistance when closing the door. Once the steel strike plate on the door touches the magnet embedded in the cabinet side, the door is held in the closed position. The Push hinge operates similar to Push drawers (self opening).

Push hinges are available in 94 degree, 110 degree and 155 degree openings for both standard and thick doors. Here are some details of the Push release magnetic device.

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