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Retractable pantry doors

8/12/20       
chris

KV? Accuride? The wheels rubbing on the face of doors is what concerns me the most.
Any suggestions of something decent that won't break the bank?
Hafele concepta (I think its called) scares me of how involved it is

8/12/20       #2: Retractable pantry doors ...
chris

Forgot to attach the drawing


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8/13/20       #4: Retractable pantry doors ...
Dennis Bean  Member

Website: http://www.saliceamerica.com

Hello Chris,

The Salice Excedra Pocket Door system is ideal for this application. Here is a snapshot of the Excedra. Please let me know if you are interested in more details and pricing. Excedra is available through any Salice distributor.

Regards,

Dennis Bean
Salice America


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8/13/20       #5: Retractable pantry doors ...
chris

Thanks Dennis. Seems like the ticket.

8/13/20       #6: Retractable pantry doors ...
Family Man

The excedra is a great system- top notch, the best. But very pricey (approx 15-20x the average pocket door system) & frankly the directions suck rocks. Worst I've ever seen direction wise. A gobbly gook of info, that can overload and not give enough at the same time. Also, it's custom made for you so you've got to be exact and no returns.

8/13/20       #7: Retractable pantry doors ...
duster

I've never used the Hafele or Salice products, so I can't comment on those. I have used the Accuride and KV pocket door products dozens of times the last 20 years, so I do have do have some insight on those. The Accuride 1332 works well, and is pretty easy to install. You might be exceeding it's limits with the height of the doors for your project. The KV rack & pinion slides also work well, but they take more time to assemble and install. Maybe an an hour and a half per door by the time you're done with the final adjustments. They would work better for the door sizes you're working with. The rollers you're concerned with are on the back side of the doors for both types, although you could mount additional rollers if you felt the need to assist alignment during retraction.

I built the the piece shown in the photos 12 years ago. African mahogany case with walnut burl veneer doors. We just moved it to a new house last month. The KV hardware still works well, and no wear on the doors.

8/14/20       #8: Retractable pantry doors ...
Dennis Bean  Member

Website: http://www.saliceamerica.com

I would agree the instructions can be intimidating if unfamiliar and it is a first install.

Before Salice accepts an order, we ask the customer to complete the questionnaire below to ensure their application is suitable for Excedra and that we customize the hardware correctly to the customerís needs. Customization means that we supply the unit pre-cut to the customers' depth dimension.

If our technicians see anything that may be inconsistent with the system, the customer will be contacted to discuss the details before any product is shipped. The mechanism is completely assembled, and a drilling scheme is provided showing the location of all hardware on the cabinet side.

The unit is custom crated and shipped directly to the customer. Lead time is approximately ten days.

Our technicians are available any time during business hours to answer any questions.

Here too is a video of the operation.

Thank you,
Dennis


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Salice Excedra Pocket Door Video

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Dennis Bean  Member

Website: http://www.saliceamerica.com

Here is some additional information. I hope this is helpful.

Dennis


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8/14/20       #10: Retractable pantry doors ...
Family Man

The mechanisms do not come fully assembled. There are dozens of pieces that have to be added. And in the instructions they will not give you an order. So unless your hardware is left open and not on a pocket please allow yourself a way to remove the non mounting side of the pocket you are mounting this in for adjustments and additions as needed.

This is the single best pocket door on the market, hands down. But there are drawbacks.

8/14/20       #11: Retractable pantry doors ...
Dennis Bean  Member

Website: http://www.saliceamerica.com

Family man, I will re-phrase that. The Excedra is shipped with the main components assembled. Some additional assembly is still required. There are other brands that require full assembly.

I am glad to hear you are pleased with the quality of the finished product.

An interesting new feature is the use of linear magnets that function as the soft close force. This technology previously only found in the auto and locomotive industries (and some roller coasters) revolutionizes the motion of functional cabinet hardware.

Like all Salice products, Excedra includes a lifetime warranty.

Thank you,

Dennis

8/14/20       #12: Retractable pantry doors ...
Jim Member

These would work.
Concepta Model 40 Wooden Pivot Sliding Doors By Hafele.

8/20/20       #13: Retractable pantry doors ...
chris

That sounds about 10,000% accurate Family man.
Hardware rep: should take about an hour per door
Cabinet maker: took about 4 hours per door and 2 hours writing emails and on phone calls with the manufacturer about the slight alignment issues that still haven't been solved.

Looks good though. Thanks Dennis.
Jim, the Hawa concepta looks like a nightmare to install.

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