Check on these specs on a generic Chinese CNC. Would you guys pay $13,000 for a machine like this to be used in a cabinet shop? They say that I can run CV or Mozaik on it. Comes with an 18 month warrantee. I know support will be difficult but I have an employee who is experienced with programming and running several types of CNC machines ranging from Shop Sabre to Biessee to Homag and a few others. He says that I should jump on it and that he can make it work. What do you guys think? I am not financing a machine as my divorce cleaned me out financially speaking. I can afford this machine in cash. Opinions?

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Lack of brand name on spindle, vacuum pump and I have not heard of the drive brand makes me leary. $13k includes delivery?
I did consider a Chinese machine from a local dealer years ago but could not get comfortable with the idea. Bought an American machine and was making parts less than four weeks. I would not like to guess what the time for delivery is for this machine.

If you have a guy who is experienced in Biesse or Homag buy a used one. There are always deals to be had.

If you 're on a limited budget buy an old ANDI or Komo. Both great machines, mechanically unkillable, lots of support. FANUC controls.

I like the "Heavy duty thick" option.

If you have $13k to gamble and don't mind losing it, go for it and let us know how it goes. Who knows, you might win.

No I would not buy it if my business was based on the production of that machine. That thing fails out of the box, or cheap controller or other CNC components fail, your business is down until something gets here from China. Great way to cripple your business.

Seems awfully expensive to me. You'll spend a lot less on a $100k machine than you will a $13k machine.

Guy next to me bought a Chinese machine for $13k about 5 years ago. Was blown away that he paid so little and it worked out. So I bought the same machine except with the linear ATC for about $25k with taxes and shipping. It's been 4 years now and the machine has more than paid for itself.

That said, I have no idea what's going on with respect to COVID shutting down half of China. Might make for a longer lead time. In my case, it was about 3 months.

The other issue is ethics. Buying Chinese is supporting an authoritarian regime that puts minorities in concentration camps, suppresses free speech, supports Russia, along with using their influence to do a lot of bad things in Africa and South America. So maybe buying American is the better choice. It's tough though when the difference is a couple years worth of profit in a low margin business.

I have a 2007 Anderson Stratos that is working great 8 tool changer and 9 slot drill bank , all hsk tooling .

I would sell it to you for 30k and you would have a beast of a machine for years to come .

62x126 cutting area and a nice Dekker liquid ring pump included.

The ANDI is a much better deal - you'll never kill it.

Apples and oranges...

What happens if your "CNC" guru leaves? and if is really that good at machines look at what you are paying him and wonder why he is working for you?????

Nothing wrong with chinese cnc machines except you have to know what you are getting, some are good, some okay, some just plain junk. I can tell you this shipping a container from China to the us used to be $3000, now it is 15,000 or more, A "real" HSD spindle is going to start at $10,000. Real run ways and bearings another 10,000. A Good vacuum pump to hold parts down starts at 8,000, and the list goes on. You can not expect a quality machine for less than a quarter of the cost of the parts. Plus there will be no customer service, if it does not run properly who you gonna call?? Ghost Busters ?? I have been in business for over 30 yrs and I can tell you now the difference between a real well built commercial duty machine and something from china or taiwan. 15 years from now the "real" machine will still be spitting out parts just as accurate as the day it was commissioned while the "aftermarket" one you be taking to the recycling center and getting 7 cents a pound for scrape metal.

So if you are thinking that you are getting a real cnc machine for $13,000 wake up, deals that are to good to be true seldom are, anyone that says his $13,000 cnc is doing well is just ashamed to admit that he was taken. Spend your money wisely, do your research, unless you are just determined to give it away. And if you are just go get married again at least your have some fun before it is all gone.

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You're absolutely right! There are good CNC machines in China.