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Making a white shading lacquer or toner

Kevin Member

I have been trying to use MLC's white stain as a base color for an oak job I am working on. I have wiped it on and I have sprayed it on, but it is just too transparent, barely noticable. I would like to make a shading lacquer from some white lacquer, but am unsure as to how much it can be thinned. Is there such a thing as over reduction of pigmented coatings? Thanks

4/30/15       #2: Making a white shading lacquer or t ...
Robert Member


4/30/15       #3: Making a white shading lacquer or t ...

typically I thin my shaders/toners 100% (or in other words a 50/50 mix of thinner to finish {which is already 50-75% thinner right out of the can already}) and I thin pre-stain sealers out of finish 100-200%...Now these are clears I'm thinning but I don't see why it wouldn't work with a pigmented finish, just back the gun away on some sample boards a bit and fog it on and see how it goes.
You could also get some white pigment and use it to make your toner/shader by mixing it with a clear.

5/1/15       #4: Making a white shading lacquer or t ...
Leo G

A better way to go is to get a white pigmented paint and thin it to about 150% (or more) and just "paint" the translucent white on.

First put a seal coat on (finish or sealer) and then a scuff and then paint with the thinned solution.

5/1/15       #5: Making a white shading lacquer or t ...
Scott Marshburn  Member


MLC also makes a shading additive that can be added to the sealer and/or the finish coat. I have used it often to get a white wash effect.

5/1/15       #6: Making a white shading lacquer or t ...

Makes me wonder what MLC's"shading additive" is? Besides......just MLC's clear stain base?

5/1/15       #7: Making a white shading lacquer or t ...
Kevin Member

Thanks for the feedback. My MLC guy suggested mixing some white magnamax in with some clear and then reducing to the desired opacity. This does make more sense than reducing the white all the way down I guess. We'll see how it goes.

5/1/15       #8: Making a white shading lacquer or t ...
Scott Marshburn  Member


I have no clue what it is. But a little goes along way. The max amount recommended to add is 6%. Sounds like it may just be Pigment added to some type of universal base that could work with precat as well as CV.

5/4/15       #9: Making a white shading lacquer or t ...

Sounds like hills 844.....lacquer pigment....?

5/6/15       #10: Making a white shading lacquer or t ...

I assure you it is not b10 stain base. It is 844 titanium white and standard lacquer thinner. Mixed 50 percent of each so it is super concentrated. Go to your MAC supplier, ask for a pint of white shading additive (16 ounces). Take 8 ounces clear lacquer, add 20 ounces standard lt, add 1 ounce shading additive, then you can shade to your hearts content to reach your desired color without building film thickness. Or you can just add the shading additive directly to your clear lacquer to mix your own toner and spray coats.

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