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Wide Belt Sander for finishing panels

2/18/16       
Miguel Zeferino Member

Hello,

I'm in the market for a used wide belt sander for finishing panels mostly with primer.

What should i look for in a machine?

Thanks

2/22/16       #2: Wide Belt Sander for finishing pane ...
Shane

look for a machine with a segmented platen... like a Heeseman sander has.. we have a 52" machine and it sands flat panels like a dream...

2/22/16       #3: Wide Belt Sander for finishing pane ...
chris

take a look at a used machinery like ex factory.
there is a huge selection of choices.
what is your budget? do you have dust collection? do you have adequate electrical supply?
contact some manufacturers.they should be willing to run some samples for you and tell you what they suggest.
do you want to use it just for primer sanding?

2/24/16       #4: Wide Belt Sander for finishing pane ...
Miguel Zeferino Member

Thanks for the valuable information. I'm going to check one 43 inches wide.

3/4/16       #5: Wide Belt Sander for finishing pane ...
Adam West  Member

Website: http://www.surfprepsanding.com

Miguel,

There are a lot of considerations in buying a wide belt sander for what you are trying to do. Far too many to post. Contact me if you need help on making a decision. I don't sell wide belt sanders but I can help you choose the right one for your application.

3/5/16       #6: Wide Belt Sander for finishing pane ...
Chris Noponen  Member

Website: http://sandersunlimited.com

Miguel,

There are many things to consider when buying a used wide belt sander...Drum/platen condition, shoe/pinchroll condition, conveyor belt and bed plate condition, ect. Most of all look at the hour meter on the machine if equipped and try to match it to the overall condition of the machine. It will be a good indication of how well the machine has been maintained. Also remember if there are any rubber components in the machine such as your rubber contact drums, rubber pinchrolls, conveyor belt, ect. remember they are like your tires on your vehicle. As you begin to put miles on your vehicle, your tire tread begins to wear and at some point you will need to replace them. Same principle on a sander. Also if you can afford it, upgrade to a 52" machine instead of the 43". Yes it may be a little more money and and the abrasive belt cost will be slightly higher, however resale value in the long run is much greater on a 52" vs a 43" I service more customers with 37" and 52" machines vs the 43" But ultimately it all goes back to what your budget is. Hope this helps.

3/14/16       #7: Wide Belt Sander for finishing pane ...
Miguel Zeferino

Now i really need your help, today i went to see a machine.

I'ts a 53 unit, with vacuum conveyor belt a huge diameter roller from very soft rubber and a roller/platen combi plus a brushing roller.

According to the guy it uses the big roller to finish panels like these machine here.....http://www.goinge.com.tw/lacquer-panel-widebelt-sander/newtype.html

Is
this the right type of machine or is he playing me?

3/14/16       #8: Wide Belt Sander for finishing pane ...
Chris Noponen  Member

Website: http://sandersunlimited.com

I couldnt get your link to work. Are you sure you have the correct link?

3/14/16       #9: Wide Belt Sander for finishing pane ...
Miguel Zeferino

www.goinge.com.tw/lacquer-panel-widebelt-sander/newtype.html

Here is the fixed link, i can do better and post a picture of the inside of the machine.


View higher quality, full size image (525 X 593)

3/14/16       #10: Wide Belt Sander for finishing pane ...
Chris Noponen  Member

Website: http://sandersunlimited.com

What is the manufacturer of the machine? Are you doing solid panels, veneer panels or both?

3/14/16       #11: Wide Belt Sander for finishing pane ...
Miguel Zeferino

It'a a Egurko Ortza

www.egorbe.co.uk/sanding_machines.html it's an older machine but it's very identical to the LMF series.

We already have one wide belt sander in the wood working section this machine is going to be used exclusively for finishing polyester primer and 2K polyurethane sealer in flat panels, interior doors, baseboard...pretty much everything it will fit in there.

3/14/16       #12: Wide Belt Sander for finishing pane ...
Chris Noponen  Member

Website: http://sandersunlimited.com

In the plywood industry, larger diameter drums are used for whitewood sanding. They typically will have a 40-45 durometer rubber drum and in some case even a 30-35 durometer. Most likely the cutting speed of the contact drum will be dramatically reduced as compared to a "normal" cutting speed of a wide belt sander. I would be curious to know what the durometer is on both heads as well as the cutting speeds for each head. If indeed the drum is soft and the cutting speed is relatively slow, then I would say he may be correct in his statement about finishing panels.

3/14/16       #13: Wide Belt Sander for finishing pane ...
Adam West  Member

Website: http://www.surfprepsanding.com

If you buy an old beat up machine you will get old beat up sanding.

If you are going to use a drum it should be in the 24 - 30 shore range, it should be able to pop up and down on each piece when they are fed one at a time, and the drum would need to spin very slowly.

That being said, you need two segemented platens. No super finish head. No drums unless you are cutting a very thick coating.

A vacuum table is almost a must. It is very important and should not be taken lightly.

3/15/16       #14: Wide Belt Sander for finishing pane ...
Miguel Zeferino

Basically both of you say that this machine isn't ideal for me, so i will keep looking till a find a good fit.

This one was really a great opportunity $ and very sturdy machine with the fixed table.

I need a vacuum table and segmented platen, how about the scotch brite drum is it really needed?

3/15/16       #15: Wide Belt Sander for finishing pane ...
Chris Noponen  Member

Website: http://sandersunlimited.com

For what you are trying to do, personally I don't think you need the scotch brite drum. One thing to remember, yes this machine may have been a great deal money wise, but in the long run what would've been the availability on parts if the machine ever went down? What is the technical support like? I'm always cautious when dealing with a manufacturer from oversea, not to mention a brand name that isnt as well known as say a Timesavers, Heesemann, ect. Not saying this manufacturer is a bad egg. I have seen to many times where customers have called me in frustration because of the lack of support on a machine they got a good deal one. Just my 2cents!! Hope it helps.

3/17/16       #16: Wide Belt Sander for finishing pane ...
Miguel Zeferino

Chris you're absolutely right. The issue is that i'm from a small country in Europe and is hard to find much offer in this kind of used machinery.

I've went and saw 3 machines advertised as lacquer finishing sanders none of them were even close.

My next step is going to a neighbor country, I've tracked the right machine, 3 head machine:

- Cross belt + electronic segmented platen
- electronic segmented platen
- electronic segmented platen
- vacuum table
- variable speed conveyor belt

let's see if i can make this happen.

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