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Surf Prep System

12/29/16       
scott

We spray Magna Max pre cat and CV, hand sand between each coat, is anyone familiar with the surf prep system and does it work well for the in between sanding of coats? Is there an issue with sanding thru the previous coat? Any answers appreciated would like to speed up the finishing process. Paint finish = 2 coats of clawlock and 3 coat of magnamax. wood finish= stain, 3 coats of satin magnamax.

12/29/16       #2: Surf Prep System ...
JoeW Member

I have used the Surf Prep for couple years now with MLC waterborne products. It has worked great. Just make sure you let the product dry properly. I have seen it demonstrated on other MLC solvent based products and it worked great.

I would never go back to hand sanding it has saved me a great deal of time. Once you try it you will be amazed.

12/29/16       #3: Surf Prep System ...
JoeW Member

Also. It is rare to see a sand thru.. You have to really get careless for that to happen.

12/31/16       #4: Surf Prep System ...
Dan cook

If you get a sand thru what can you do to hide it again? Seems like there is always a kind of halo effect once that happens and stripping the finish off is a huge pain.

12/31/16       #5: Surf Prep System ...
Dean Member

Is this system much different than putting a thick interface pad on a festool sander? I really do not want to get into air sanders. I have enough money in Festool stuff already. I am a painting contractor, so need stuff that works well in the shop and in the field.

1/1/17       #6: Surf Prep System ...
JoeW Member

Dean,

There is an electric Surf Prep now. I too would rather use electric over air. But The electric wasn't available at the time I purchased.

I too am highly invested in Festool. I use it for everything except sanding between finishes. I spray only waterborne precat Lacquer. I tried most every combination with the festool sanders and just couldn't make it work for me. Then my supplier stopped by my shop and wanted to demo the Surf Prep for me. I bought it that day.. It is so easy and fast. And best of all the sanding pads don't clog. Unless of course you try to sand too soon.

1/1/17       #7: Surf Prep System ...
Charles

If I understand it correctly, the "electric" version includes an air pump that drives the sander? I was looking at the 3x4 version. So, it really is still an air sander? Is this correct?

I am thinking of using one for scuff sanding in-between coats during the finishing process. Specifically for flat panel (AKA Shaker style) doors. A round R/O sander cannot get into the square corners on the flat panels, of course. BTW, the cabinet doors that I am sanding are quite large, almost the size of walk doors. Hand-sanding is not working well for me.

I would prefer an electric sander. According to the Surf Prep website, their air sanders would consume a bit more air than I have available. Or, at least the compressor would be running almost constantly.

1/3/17       #8: Surf Prep System ...
Lorraine Member

We use Surf Prep on both solvent and waterbased finishes with great results.
Fine and super fine flat and thicker sponged pads 180 220 is what we found to be most affective in most finishes we do.

1/6/17       #10: Surf Prep System ...
Denny J

Good information on this. I am going to get the surge sander from power process to demo next week.

2/2/17       #11: Surf Prep System ...
Abrasive

"If I understand it correctly, the "electric" version includes an air pump that drives the sander"

That box i think is the electronic speed controller for the brushless motor.

3/5/17       #12: Surf Prep System ...
Adam West  Member

Website: http://www.surfprepsanding.com

The box is a power supply converting 120 vac to 24 vdc for the brushless outer runner motor.


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