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how to close the pore ?

5/3/20       
mauricio poli Member

Hi everybody!
We have lot of work trying to speed up the finishing process of solid pine coffe tables.
In some pieces, we found open pores only after stain and first pu sealer coat.
Then we use a medical syringe to fill the pore with sealer, and have to wait several hours to sand it.
After we sand the bare wood, we are using filler, but those defects are difficult to see.
What can we do to avoid this, or to easily close this defect?
Thanks a lot.


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5/4/20       #2: how to close the pore ? ...
Dan Cook

You can use a paste filler before finish coat which fills all the pores, but it is not quick. You basically cover the entire surface, let it dry and then sand to smooth before staining and finishing, but it eliminates the open pore situation. It is not quick, but permanently fixes the problem instead of going back and trying to fill open pores which if you are using catalyzed finishes that don't rewet are probably showing through the next coat.

5/4/20       #3: how to close the pore ? ...
rich c.

Looks to me like a bad glue seam instead of wood pores. More careful handling and a better job of jointing the edge should eliminate a lot of that. I preferred Famowood solvent based for tiny imperfections.

5/5/20       #4: how to close the pore ? ...
mauricio poli Member

Thank you very much Dan and Rich!
Dan, do you believe it I use a water based filler between the coats it will help?
Rich, We are using automotive filler, do you believe solvent famowood is better for the wood? I am going to check how our people are glueing th pieces.
Thanks

5/5/20       #5: how to close the pore ? ...
GaryE

Website: http://www.wurthlac.com

As said above, best practice for a full fill is to use a paste wood grain-filler. There are a number of these on the market. The one I am familiar with is either brushed or sprayed (reduced) to the raw wood, and wiped into the grain almost similar to wiping a stain. roughly 4 hr dry time, then sand back and seal. They can usually be tinted also, but once dry, they are clear.

I've attached a link to the product I'm familiar with below.

-Gary

ML Campbell FD Wood Filler Paste

5/5/20       #6: how to close the pore ? ...
mauricio poli Member

Thanks a lot Gary!

5/7/20       #7: how to close the pore ? ...
duster

Gary - what do you use to thin the MLC paste filler?

5/7/20       #8: how to close the pore ? ...
rich c.

So with all the wood grain fillers being mentioned and suggested, you guys routinely fill pine? It would be a task to fill that whole pine table top just to fill a gap at that seam.

5/7/20       #9: how to close the pore ? ...
DannyB

Yeah, i think i agree with where Rich is going.

As a production process for filling pine that will have a bunch of deeper seam gaps, etc, i would probably be squeeging epoxy over the entire thing or something that will fill it all in one pass.

If it was a real production process, i'd use uv cure epoxy so i could recycle the extra, but this doesn't sound high volume enough.

5/9/20       #10: how to close the pore ? ...
mauricio poli Member

Hello everybody!
Let me tell you how we solve this pore problem.
First of all we check the glueing, and get better, fewer pores.
After we put 2 heavy pu sealer coats wet on wet, sanding 320 and repeat another 2 heavy coates.
In the last sanding, there were some pores yet....
Then we put color on an automotive poliester filler, and very carefully we fill the tiny pores with it.
After the final coat, it is very good no more pores.
Thanks everybody!


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