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Maintaining heat, and program settings

8/20/20       
TIna Dazole Member

Hello all wood enthusiasts !
I am hoping you can help me as I am new to wood drying and especially NYLE kilns.
I have had some wonderful back and forth with Gene but I feel that I still need to know more for his answers to make sense to me and for me not to just be throwing loose ideas over email.
So Here comes my wordy kiln trouble questions/ descriptions:

Background:

I am helping a company here in Nicaragua ( very hot outdoor temperature) set up a NYLE L200 kiln, but it is an older version probably from 2003.
we are running it out of an old shipping container 8'x20'.
The kiln came with 16b love pid controllers, (well that's what we found with it who knows when it came in 2003)
which have many different functions.
I have a few questions regarding the actual container as well as the programming of the pid.

First the container:

1. There is no insulation right now in the shipping container...and holes are cut in the container for the wires to leave and there seems to be many just openings in general.
we lose a lot of heat at night and seem to be very affected by the outside temperature.
someone I work with says that it should keep to temperature anyway, just work harder... is this true?
I feel that insulation would help the container be more independent from outdoor temperature.
I generally start drying the wood when it has 25% moisture content so I often want my dry bulb at 120 ( which is the max) it seems to only reach that for a few hours during midday.

2. vents, what are the protocols on vent use, we do not have automatic vents, but when should I open them and when should I close them? is it just when things are too hot or not to temperature or does it have to do with moisture as well.Also some diagrams the vents are on top and some they are on the sides, how does this affect air flow and which is best?

now on to the controller:

The 16b love controller has a lot of functions and I can't find anything online to tell me which one is correct for the kiln.
It seems the newer NYLE kilns come with their own controller, and have more specific settings ( so if any of you are PID controller experts I could use some guidance >_<)

1. First of all there are two PIDS, one for dry bulb one for welt bulb which makes sense in terms of getting the read on both temperatures but do both get set in same settings or different?
I have the dry bulb pid set to 120 and the wet bulb set to 98

2.We have been running both on ON/OFF and just setting the temperature to what we want, but it seems to just be heating and not.. well controlling or maintaining certain settings,My guess after some research is it should be on PID setting and set to Heating or heating cooling dual loop. There are also functions like Ramp/Soak and so on. ( very unclear to me which one I need)

3. the drainage pipe seems dry/ never to have released water, which makes me think the compressor is not working and it is not "dehumidifying".
This must have to do with the settings and its cycles I just feel very swamped in information from the manual.

Any advice/ thoughts would be amazing !
Anything is appreciated <3

I have attached the b series manual for the controller as well as a photo of our control set up.
I am also attaching a photo of a random hole/pipe sticking out of top of kiln that I think...would be best to be closed?


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B seriese control manual

8/25/20       #3: Maintaining heat, and program setti ...
Stan Krahn Member

Website: http://nyle.com

Hi Tina
I'll be glad to help you. I built this as a replacement for our old temperature/timer controls when they became unavailable. Contact me at skrahn@nyle.com or 800-777-6953 Ext 212

 

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